Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied?

On 18/03/15 19:31, Nextime wrote: Do NOT use apt.devuan.org, the devuan packages are on packages.devuan.org I don't think all packages are on packages.devuan.org yet as below. But please don't worry about that, as I perfectly understand that the work on this is still in progress. I brought th

Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied?

On March 18, 2015 6:29:37 PM WET, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: >On Wed 18 March 2015 19:07:09 Anto wrote: >> root@v01:~# apt-cache policy dbus >> dbus: >>Installed: 1.8.14-1.0nosystemd1 >>Candidate: 1.8.14-1.0nosystemd1 >>Package pin: 1.8.14-1.0nosystemd1 >>Version table: >> 1.8.

Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied?

On Wed 18 March 2015 19:07:09 Anto wrote: > root@v01:~# apt-cache policy dbus > dbus: >Installed: 1.8.14-1.0nosystemd1 >Candidate: 1.8.14-1.0nosystemd1 >Package pin: 1.8.14-1.0nosystemd1 >Version table: > 1.8.16-1 990 > 110 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main i3

Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied?

On 18/03/15 15:47, Jude Nelson wrote: That's very interesting. Devuan's dbus shouldn't depend on libsystemd0 at all (it builds and runs without it); if it is pulling in libsystemd0 as a dependency, then there's a bug in our dbus package. Can you show me the output of: $ aptitude show dbus $

Re: [Dng] vdev status updates

* On 2015 18 Mar 10:40 -0500, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > Sounds all very clean and nice. > Kudos to Jude! Looking forward to using vdev* eventually Seconded. Thanks for your work the past several weeks, Jude. Good to have you aboard. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best

Re: [Dng] vdev status updates

Le 18/03/2015 16:37, Joerg Reisenweber a écrit : Sounds all very clean and nice. Kudos to Jude! Looking forward to using vdev* eventually /j +1 :-)Didier On Wed 18 March 2015 10:43:06 Jude Nelson wrote: Hi Didier, It's very good to use inotify, because it's a standard Linux too

Re: [Dng] vdev status updates

Sounds all very clean and nice. Kudos to Jude! Looking forward to using vdev* eventually /j On Wed 18 March 2015 10:43:06 Jude Nelson wrote: > Hi Didier, > > > It's very good to use inotify, because it's a standard Linux tool (don't > > know for other nixes), not yet-another-interface. This wa

Re: [Dng] greetings & how to help

On 03/18/15 10:56, Udo Rader wrote: > Haven't tried it for myself, but the Wiki says there are native qemu > images as well: > > https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu > *** This was the first pre-alpha release and to my knowledge has not been updated since. The Vag

Re: [Dng] greetings & how to help

Thank you! On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Udo Rader wrote: > Haven't tried it for myself, but the Wiki says there are native qemu > images as well: > > https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu > > On 03/18/2015 02:48 PM, Linuxito wrote: > > How can you download th

Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied?

On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 21:00:49 +0100 Anto wrote: > Will Devuan be really free from systemd and its components? Or will > there be trade-off being applied so that some of systemd components > will be used in Devuan? Of course, I can't answer authoritatively, because my only role in the project i

Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied?

That's very interesting. Devuan's dbus shouldn't depend on libsystemd0 at all (it builds and runs without it); if it is pulling in libsystemd0 as a dependency, then there's a bug in our dbus package. Can you show me the output of: $ aptitude show dbus $ apt-cache rdepends dbus Also, if it is co

Re: [Dng] vdev status updates

Hi Didier, > It's very good to use inotify, because it's a standard Linux tool (don't know for other nixes), not yet-another-interface. This way DEs shouldn't have any concern implementing it. That's the plan :) Like udisks2, NetworkManager, and upower, vdevd-user (or something like it) offer DE

Re: [Dng] greetings & how to help

Haven't tried it for myself, but the Wiki says there are native qemu images as well: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/wikis/try-devuan-on-qemu On 03/18/2015 02:48 PM, Linuxito wrote: > How can you download the image without using vagrant? I couldn't make it > work on my FBSD box :( >

Re: [Dng] greetings & how to help

How can you download the image without using vagrant? I couldn't make it work on my FBSD box :( On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:06 PM, fsmithred wrote: > On 03/17/2015 09:56 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > I tried the Vagrant on my Wheezy box the day the Vagrant image came out, > > and it errored out with s

Re: [Dng] vdev status updates

It's very good to use inotify, because it's a standard Linux tool (don't know for other nixes), not yet-another-interface. This way DEs shouldn't have any concern implementing it. This means you will provide support for inotify in vdevfs? AFAIK there isn't in every filesystem, eg sysfs

Re: [Dng] greetings & how to help

Hi Jude, thanks for the bunch of information, especially the various project links, this brings some light to my questions. To get a feeling about the status quo, I will start playing with the vagrant image and then be back here. For the infrastructure things, I will follow up directly in gitlab

Re: [Dng] Systemd: it depends -- was Re: release date

On 18/03/15 01:06, hellekin wrote: Devuan provides free init, letting the user choose which init system they want to use. Obviously, because the primary job is to remove the mandatory dependency on systemd, if you choose to run systemd, you'd better stick with Debian. Now if you want to run sta

Re: [Dng] Devuan commitments - will trade-off be applied?

On 18/03/15 00:56, Jude Nelson wrote: Hi Anto, I think the plan is to make the installation of all systemd components optional. The packages in git.devuan.org that are cloned from Debian's sources have build flags set automatically to compile out systemd dependencies,