Re: [Dng] [dng] vdev status update (2015-05-03)

2015-05-13 Thread James Powell
Thanks Jude. The Slackware package is delayed, but only due to the lack of a Slackware style script. I might try to ask one of the Slackware team for assistance when I resume work. However, the package is fairly much completed in terms of installation points and directory setup. Sent from my W

Re: [Dng] Systemd discussions at LinuxQuestions.

2015-05-13 Thread James Powell
I agree T. J. The problem is too much "thinking" about problems, rather than offering a clear solution other than scrapping the fore and replacing it entirely seems to be the source of the problem. One argument I stand by adamantly is that while sysvinit was imperfect in design, it left room t

Re: [Dng] Systemd discussions at LinuxQuestions.

2015-05-13 Thread T.J. Duchene
I am reposting this with apologies to all concerned. Outlook mangled the message text. The top few paragraphs were not my own. They belong to James P. >Unfortunately this seems to be a growing trend following the Microsoft playbook of acquisition, suppressi

Re: [Dng] Systemd discussions at LinuxQuestions.

2015-05-13 Thread T.J. Duchene
Unfortunately this seems to be a growing trend following the Microsoft playbook of acquisition, suppression, and extinction on various Linux communities and mailing lists I've been privy to as of recent. Fewer and fewer distributions have avoided systemd but discussion into alternatives i

[Dng] [dng] vdev status update (2015-05-03)

2015-05-13 Thread Jude Nelson
Hey everyone, I have the latest news for vdev: * vdev now creates symlinks for: -- /dev/v4l/by-path -- /dev/disk/by-partuuid -- /dev/disk/by-partlabel Thank you Scooby for helping me confirm this! * vdev now sets the proper ownership and permissions for: -- /dev/mISDNtimer -- /dev/mwave -- /dev

Re: [Dng] Systemd discussions at LinuxQuestions.

2015-05-13 Thread James Powell
Unfortunately this seems to be a growing trend following the Microsoft playbook of acquisition, suppression, and extinction on various Linux communities and mailing lists I've been privy to as of recent. Fewer and fewer distributions have avoided systemd but discussion into alternatives is grow

Re: [Dng] Devuan - Fork or Derivative (or perhaps both)

2015-05-13 Thread T.J. Duchene
> -Original Message- > From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of Daniel > Reurich > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 3:58 PM > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: [Dng] Devuan - Fork or Derivative (or perhaps both) > > Hi > > I wonder if Devuan should rebrand its relationship t

Re: [Dng] A novice attempt to speed up Devuan development

2015-05-13 Thread T.J. Duchene
> -Original Message- > From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of David Hare > Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2015 8:12 PM > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [Dng] A novice attempt to speed up Devuan development > > While we're waiting for vdev (that does look like the way t

Re: [Dng] No new posts since 2+ days, DN XXIV not published -- mail server broken?

2015-05-13 Thread Jaromil
On Tue, 12 May 2015, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > basically ignore this mail, it has no relevant content. Actually when you see > it, it's moot ;-) well it contains some truth, indeed the postfix queue needed some attention, no mails were lost, the last 3 days of traffic was just delivered. thanks

Re: [Dng] A novice attempt to speed up Devuan development

2015-05-13 Thread Anto
On 13/05/15 03:12, David Hare wrote: While we're waiting for vdev (that does look like the way to go) I revisited eudev, which I never managed to get working in a usable way. Did much better this time after some not too major hacking of the source posted on devuan git, mostly "rules" and "pa

Re: [Dng] Valentine alpha: Was: Re: Financial report, 1st trimester 2015

2015-05-13 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2015-05-13 at 00:24 -0400, JeremyBekka C wrote: > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 11:03:22 +0200 > From: Svante Signell > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: [Dng] Valentine alpha: Was: Re: Financial report, 1st > trimester 2015 > Message-ID: <1430730202.4404.91.ca...@gmail.

[Dng] Systemd discussions at LinuxQuestions

2015-05-13 Thread Matt
It's sad there is so much hostility to people who struggle to keep init freedom available, I am very thankful to the devs of devuan ! On May 11, 2015 5:00:02 AM PDT, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: >Send Dng mailing list submissions to > dng@lists.dyne.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe

[Dng] stonix

2015-05-13 Thread Roy Nielsen
Hello, We released a (beta) security tool to give non-windows operating systems a base level of security based on government guideline and industry best practices. https://github.com/CSD-Public/stonix The documentation is a bit sketchy, but feel free to check it out. Let me know if I can answer

[Dng] Devuan Jessie repo (in the meantime)

2015-05-13 Thread Jaret Cantu
Hey there, every-Devuan: Is this list just being unusually quiet, or is my email broken? Or is dng broken? Anyway, I have set up a repo to which I am frequently pushing new packages from git.devuan.org not yet served from packages.devuan.org. (And some new gnome packages as I strip and bu

[Dng] Is it useful to create a .so file to replace functions imported from libsystemd & Co.?

2015-05-13 Thread T.J. Duchene
With respect, Edward, I can't imagine why you are taking the "long way around" in regards to systemd XFCE 4.12 can be compiled without systemd to my knowledge. That would eliminate any concerns. T.J. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://

Re: [Dng] Systemd discussions at LinuxQuestions.

2015-05-13 Thread miroslav . rovis1
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 02:17:08PM -0700, James Powell wrote: > Unfortunately the moderators at LinuxQuestions have closed off discussing the > Devuan stance topic that had been open and participate in over the repeated > squabbling, though honestly, very little was done other than the people who

Re: [Dng] Systemd discussions at LinuxQuestions.

2015-05-13 Thread miroslav . rovis1
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 02:17:08PM -0700, James Powell wrote: > Unfortunately the moderators at LinuxQuestions have closed off discussing the > Devuan stance topic that had been open and participate in over the repeated > squabbling, though honestly, very little was done other than the people who

Re: [Dng] why someone might want systemd on devuan

2015-05-13 Thread T.J. Duchene
>This is the exact situation in which I'm glad for containers and VMs. >Use all the systemd you want, but keep it in a Biosafety level 4 >containment facility. I'd use a VM. I suspect a container or chroot would not be sufficient. =) All jokes aside, this would be why I am watching the systembs

Re: [Dng] Systemd discussions at LinuxQuestions.

2015-05-13 Thread Philip Lacroix
I've read the mentioned thread, although not completely yet, and I appreciated Jude's and nextime's interventions. Guys, you met TobiSGD, who should be a LQ moderator but is also an active systemd advocate, according to what I've seen in the past (and more than ever on that very thread). Unfort

[Dng] No new posts since 2+ days, DN XXIV not published -- mail server broken?

2015-05-13 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
basically ignore this mail, it has no relevant content. Actually when you see it, it's moot ;-) /j ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[Dng] Devuan - Fork or Derivative (or perhaps both)

2015-05-13 Thread Daniel Reurich
Hi I wonder if Devuan should rebrand it's relationship to Debian as a Derivative rather then a Fork. It may help to smooth things over a bit. This may also be a good marketing approach as well as reduce the hostility when we send bugreports and patches to debian. Regards, Daniel.

Re: [Dng] Systemd discussions at LinuxQuestions.

2015-05-13 Thread miroslav . rovis1
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 02:17:08PM -0700, James Powell wrote: > Unfortunately the moderators at LinuxQuestions have closed off discussing the > Devuan stance topic that had been open and participate in over the repeated > squabbling, though honestly, very little was done other than the people who

Re: [Dng] [dng] vdev status updates

2015-05-13 Thread Jude Nelson
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Jack L. Frost wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 08:03:02PM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > > > I have the latest news for vdev: > > Hi. I dunno if it's very relevant to this particular mailing list, but > still. > I've packaged vdev and all its depe

[Dng] Devuan News, volume 02, issue XXIV

2015-05-13 Thread hellekin
# Devuan News Issue XXIV __Volume 02, Week 19, Devuan Week 24__ Released Tuesday, 12015/05/12 [HE](why-he) https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-news/wikis/past-issues/volume-02/issue-024 ## Editorial You may have noticed that some time has elapsed since the last issue was published. We

Re: [Dng] [dng] vdev status updates

2015-05-13 Thread Jack L. Frost
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 08:03:02PM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I have the latest news for vdev: Hi. I dunno if it's very relevant to this particular mailing list, but still. I've packaged vdev and all its dependencies for Arch: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/vdev-git https:

Re: [Dng] Systemd discussions at LinuxQuestions.

2015-05-13 Thread miroslav . rovis1
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 02:17:08PM -0700, James Powell wrote: > Unfortunately the moderators at LinuxQuestions have closed off discussing the > Devuan stance topic that had been open and participate in over the repeated > squabbling, though honestly, very little was done other than the people who

Re: [Dng] A novice attempt to speed up Devuan development

2015-05-13 Thread David Hare
While we're waiting for vdev (that does look like the way to go) I revisited eudev, which I never managed to get working in a usable way. Did much better this time after some not too major hacking of the source posted on devuan git, mostly "rules" and "patches". I now got it working seemingly

Re: [Dng] Valentine alpha: Was: Re: Financial report, 1st trimester 2015

2015-05-13 Thread JeremyBekka C
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 11:03:22 +0200 From: Svante Signell To: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: [Dng] Valentine alpha: Was: Re: Financial report, 1st trimester 2015 Message-ID: <1430730202.4404.91.ca...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" On Sun, 2015-05-

[Dng] test

2015-05-13 Thread Franco Lanza
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