Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-05-31 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 05/31/2015 04:23 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2015 08:51:58 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:58:55PM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote: (II) Lua Lua is also popular as a scripting language. I believe it was *designed* as a scripting language. [...] Its easy to imple

[Dng] DistroWatch review of Manjaro-OpenRC

2015-05-31 Thread Robert Storey
Now that Ubuntu and Debian have decided to go over to the Dark Side (ie systemd), I've been looking for a replacement at least until Devuan is released. I believe it was Steve Litt who made a post suggesting that Manjaro-OpenRC was very good, so I checked it out. Long story made short, it is indeed

Re: [Dng] Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

2015-05-31 Thread James Powell
Though I do have to admit, someone should edit in that Jude Nelson was developing vdev and Slackware was still against the adoption and just recently got a full import of OpenRC on the SBo for further hilarity. All in good fun guys. -Jim From: james4...@hotmail.com To: phi...@posteo.de; dng@li

Re: [Dng] Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

2015-05-31 Thread James Powell
OMG!!! LMAO @ video. Spot on, spot on. Of course this was one of many parodies of that scene, but still it's hilarious. To whoever edited that *standing ovation* -Jim > Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 21:47:48 +0200 > From: phi...@posteo.de > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [Dng] Lennart react

Re: [Dng] Fwd: Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

2015-05-31 Thread Robert Storey
> Guys, just cool down please :) That precice footage has been the > subject of thousands of parodies (just look for "downfall parody" or > "untergang parody" in youtube), from political election failures to > the iPad, from scientific referees to sport events. I'll just add to this that I live in

Re: [Dng] I want to mount a Packages page, buildd and Wanna-build system

2015-05-31 Thread Franco Lanza
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 06:19:27PM -0500, APT Gatuno MX wrote: > > Sorry for reviving this, but I don't know where to mount the Devuan Packages > Page. > > For the packages page I need a apache server. It uses perl and other things. > The url for the repo or if the repo is local the local dir. Fu

Re: [Dng] Fwd: Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

2015-05-31 Thread Teodoro Santoni
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:07:18PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 04:11:23PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Sun, 31 May 2015 09:05:20 + > > Edward Bartolo wrote: > > > > > To state the obvious, public figures are invariably criticized and > > > ridiculed, sometimes in a crue

Re: [Dng] I want to mount a Packages page, buildd and Wanna-build system

2015-05-31 Thread APT Gatuno MX
El 20/05/2015 7:39 pm, Franco Lanza escribió: On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 02:02:57PM -0500, APT Gatuno MX wrote: Well then, what about the packages page? It doesn't need the wanna-build system, just a repo to pull packages. The packages page is a well welcomed contribution! What do you need to

Re: [Dng] Fwd: Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

2015-05-31 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 04:11:23PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 31 May 2015 09:05:20 + > Edward Bartolo wrote: > > > To state the obvious, public figures are invariably criticized and > > ridiculed, sometimes in a cruel manner. A high dose of humour usually > > heals wounds caused by a

Re: [Dng] Fwd: Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

2015-05-31 Thread Neo Futur
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > I think you miss the point Yves was making. The objection isn't to > painting Poettering in a bad light, the objection is about making light > of what hitler did. > > As far as I know, Poettering never advocated mass murder. Sure but murdering

Re: [Dng] automounting in a window manager

2015-05-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 31 May 2015 22:35:56 +0800 Robert Storey wrote: > First, thanks to all who replied. > > To me, the ideal solution would be if this was a user-configurable > option. Would be great if you could, for example, just stick > something into .bashrc for any user to allow automounting of USB > d

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-05-31 Thread Laurent Bercot
On 31/05/2015 18:35, Didier Kryn wrote: AFAIU, this thread has turned to be about interfacing whatever app to a scripting language. I consider this a very usefull feature for all but basic applications. In particular, I consider that interfacing init - The init program which is pid 1 - with a scr

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-05-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 31 May 2015 08:51:58 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:58:55PM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote: > (II) Lua > > Lua is also popular as a scripting language. I believe it was > *designed* as a scripting language. I already mentioned that I'd prefer each application have i

Re: [Dng] Fwd: Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

2015-05-31 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 31 May 2015 09:05:20 + Edward Bartolo wrote: > To state the obvious, public figures are invariably criticized and > ridiculed, sometimes in a cruel manner. A high dose of humour usually > heals wounds caused by aggressive criticism. I think you miss the point Yves was making. The ob

Re: [Dng] Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

2015-05-31 Thread Philip Lacroix
Now Mr Poettering will have another pretext (if not a reason) for whining and complaining that everybody "hates" him. This might also make him feel way more important than he actually is (Ok, it seems that he already does). That said, I admit that the video made me ROFL. Inappropriate? Perhaps,

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-05-31 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 05/31/2015 05:01 AM, Jude Nelson wrote: Hi Jonathan, Yes I know, I was trolling. But it was a friendly troll. See, I included a hash at the end of my email. Here is my Proof-of-Troll(tm) that matches that hash: echo "Sorry but I couldn't resist trolling you here. :) Still

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-05-31 Thread Didier Kryn
AFAIU, this thread has turned to be about interfacing whatever app to a scripting language. I consider this a very usefull feature for all but basic applications. In particular, I consider that interfacing init - The init program which is pid 1 - with a scripting language would provide ult

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-05-31 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 07:16:55PM -0700, Isaac Dunham wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 04:54:53PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote: > > On 27/05/2015 12:12, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > >I'm in the process of writing (yet) a(nother) editor and output formatter, > > >and on reading this, I started to wonder

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-05-31 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 01:54:50PM +, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > If I may... If you google me you will find old old reasons to hate > me, and those reasons are connected to GUIs. I do know one or two > thinks about the subject. > > It is possible to make a good GUI that is separated from its >

Re: [Dng] automounting in a window manager

2015-05-31 Thread Robert Storey
First, thanks to all who replied. To me, the ideal solution would be if this was a user-configurable option. Would be great if you could, for example, just stick something into .bashrc for any user to allow automounting of USB devices, no matter which DE or window manager was being used. But I kno

Re: [Dng] Fwd: Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

2015-05-31 Thread Clarke Sideroad
On 05/31/2015 05:05 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote: To state the obvious, public figures are invariably criticized and ridiculed, sometimes in a cruel manner. A high dose of humour usually heals wounds caused by aggressive criticism. Humour has no side effects apart from a more balanced view of the w

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-05-31 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
If I may... If you google me you will find old old reasons to hate me, and those reasons are connected to GUIs. I do know one or two thinks about the subject. It is possible to make a good GUI that is separated from its functionality in the manner many contributors to this thread are thinking

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-05-31 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:58:55PM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > Shell-based command access to software like Powerpoint would indeed be > > great. But I wonder if we can raise the bar a bit > > and consider an approach that could serve the largest audience. > > Especially users who

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-05-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 28. Mai 2015, 23:58:55 schrieb Jude Nelson: > > Just imagine the possibilities if Powerpoint gave you access to an > > environment like that! > > It didn't occur to me when I wrote my original email, but it turns out > Powerpoint can be scripted with VBA. So can Libreoffice (it sup

[Dng] How about KDE/Plasma? (was: Re: Everyone's favorite seasoning: Cinnamon)

2015-05-31 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 29. Mai 2015, 20:14:51 schrieb Jaret Cantu: > Just did a systemd-free build of Cinnaminnaminnamon this morning and... > > Shutdown instead Logs Out. Like, not even a modal to pop up with > grayed-out buttons like a misconfigured XFCE: it just logs you out. > > It looks like instead of

Re: [Dng] Everyone's favorite seasoning: Cinnamon

2015-05-31 Thread David Harrison
On 31/05/2015 05:21, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: So Cinnamon and Mate are building and running systemd-less now, and with proper shutdown capability. https://git.devuan.org/groups/gnome i386 and amd64 .debs are available on my repository (Jessie*only*): http://pkg.realitysend.net/ Amaz

[Dng] Fwd: Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

2015-05-31 Thread Edward Bartolo
To state the obvious, public figures are invariably criticized and ridiculed, sometimes in a cruel manner. A high dose of humour usually heals wounds caused by aggressive criticism. Humour has no side effects apart from a more balanced view of the world. -

Re: [Dng] Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

2015-05-31 Thread Jude Nelson
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 2:16 AM, Yves wrote: > Frankly, I find this video simply inappropriate, unnecessary and > inflammatory. > Just my 2 cents. > > If you do not like his code. > Just make do without the code. > > Damn I find this distasteful!! > Agreed. > > > > > On 31 May 2015 1:51:01 PM

Re: [Dng] OT: separate GUI from commands

2015-05-31 Thread Jude Nelson
Hi Jonathan, > > Yes I know, I was trolling. But it was a friendly troll. See, I included > a hash at the end of my email. Here is my Proof-of-Troll(tm) that matches > that hash: > > echo "Sorry but I couldn't resist trolling you here. :) Still intrigued by > your file-system based widget idea,

Re: [Dng] Lennart reacts to the release of Devuan

2015-05-31 Thread Neo Futur
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 1:16 AM, Yves wrote: > Frankly, I find this video simply inappropriate, unnecessary and > inflammatory. > Just my 2 cents. sorry but I love it ! I also loved the same parody about mtgox . . . even if I was one of the people in it :p communication is part of the fight . .

Re: [Dng] automounting in a window manager

2015-05-31 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 07:57:47AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > With all the recent discussion about DEs (Cinnamon, Gnome, Mate, etc), I > just thought I'd throw this in here... > > For the longest time, I simply used a window manager. In the beginning, it > was FVWM, but later I took a liking to