Re: [DNG] Will there be a MirDevuan WTF?

2015-07-27 Thread Thorsten Glaser
miro.rovis at croatiafidelis.hr writes: On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 11:06:29AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: What does the Mir prefix contribute the the meaning? What does WTF mean in thei context. I mean what the fuck? The “Mir” præfix means it comes from me / The MirOS Project. “WTF” has

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Didier Kryn
T.J, would you please try to put dyne.org as To instead of CC, in the destination? I think it would enable the button reply to the list in Thunderbird. Le 27/07/2015 02:28, T.J. Duchene a écrit : The affectation operator is := instead of = in C, and the comparison are = (instead

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 27/07/2015 17:45, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit : On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:20:03 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: Or, as in APL, use = for assignment You mean like in b+c = a ? Interesting because assignment is an invention of imperative languages

Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Dave Turner
What he said! My laptop and my desktop will be easy to use. Multi-user systems are a different kettle of fish. Security has to take to take precedence, but make it too difficult and nobody will use your new OS in the first place... DaveT On 27/07/15 16:49, Robert Storey wrote: On Sun,

Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Robert Storey
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: You can roll your own automount with one day's work using inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works without X or window manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Lars Noodén
On 07/27/2015 07:07 PM, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 27/07/2015 17:45, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit : On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:20:03 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: Or, as in APL, use = for assignment You mean like in b+c = a ? Interesting because

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 11:58:55PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: ... The affectation operator is := instead of = in C, and the comparison are = (instead of ==) and /= instead of != . The bad choice of operators, together with other tricks is probably the main source of bugs in C programs. It

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Ron
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 11:20:03 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: Or, as in APL, use = for assignment Sorry, read use A (left arrow) 1 2 3 4 for assignment Cheers, Ron. -- And it should be the law: If you use the word `paradigm' without knowing what

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Ron
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:32:06 -0400 Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: But if you frequently change languages, you rapidly find: = is a bad choice for assignment, because it also means equality. = is a bad choice for equality, because it also means assignment. So the only sane

Re: [DNG] OT: some ancient programming language history

2015-07-27 Thread Ron
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 18:07:30 +0200 Didier Kryn k...@in2p3.fr wrote: use A (left arrow) 1 2 3 4 for assignment Don't understand what you mean :-) (letter A) (left arrow symbol) (one or several values or variables) You mean like in b+c = a ? that would be: (letter a) (left

Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 12:00:02AM +, Roger Leigh wrote: On 24/07/2015 23:48, James Powell wrote: CDE is a classic UNIX desktop, but it has long been since viable for modern usages. Xfce, in truth, was a modern replacement for it using Xforms since Motif was, at the time, under a

Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Daniel Cegiełka
2015-07-27 11:45 GMT+02:00 Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org: On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Svante Signell wrote: On Sun, 2015-07-26 at 23:17 -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: If I might say so, I HATE automount. Click to mount is fine, but automounting peripheral drives like jump drives, CDs and whatnot is an

Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 09:24:45 +0200 tilt! t...@linuxfoo.de wrote: Steve Litt wrote on 27/07/2015 at 05:18 CEST: You can roll your own automount with one day's work using inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works without X or window manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if

Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:10:29 +0200 Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 2015-07-26 at 23:17 -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: That's a very gracious offer, Steve, and I'm sure it will be greatly appreciated. =) If I might say so, I HATE automount. Click to mount is fine, but

[DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Svante Signell
On Sun, 2015-07-26 at 23:17 -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: That's a very gracious offer, Steve, and I'm sure it will be greatly appreciated. =) If I might say so, I HATE automount. Click to mount is fine, but automounting peripheral drives like jump drives, CDs and whatnot is an inexcusable

Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 02:49:54PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] As far as Windowmaker and Gnustep, if you can get those to serve you in any kind of productive way, you're a better man than I. I find Unity easier to use than those two. Speaking of Unity, Unity proved how many users a

Re: [DNG] A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread tilt!
Steve Litt wrote on 27/07/2015 at 05:18 CEST: You can roll your own automount with one day's work using inotify-wait, dmesg, sudo, lsblk, and the mount command. Works without X or window manager. Heck, I'll do it myself if more than 20 people want it. +1 However, I dont' have sudo installed,

Re: [DNG] Ashley Madison hack

2015-07-27 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:45 PM, James Powell james4...@hotmail.com wrote: You'd have to really spoof PAM and fool the IDS to some extent, and you have Firewalls to get past. You're assuming there is an IDS. It may have been via an employee logging in to the company extranet via cybercafé

Re: [DNG] automount Was: Re: A better default windows manager

2015-07-27 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015, Svante Signell wrote: On Sun, 2015-07-26 at 23:17 -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: If I might say so, I HATE automount. Click to mount is fine, but automounting peripheral drives like jump drives, CDs and whatnot is an inexcusable security risk, in my opinion, even under a