Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.

2015-09-12 Thread tilt!
Hi Jonathan, On 09/12/2015 06:04 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi tilt! Is this a serious response? I ask because the other candidates -- an obscure language and a dead language-- were not. If so tell me which dialect to use. No, it's *not* a serious response. Had i been serious, i had

Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.

2015-09-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Guile it is. Just so we're clear-- I am assuming you understand why I want to do this, and that you will defend the choice of language against bike-shedders and Socratic bombers.  (Though of course you don't have to defend my actual code.)  If both those assumptions are true then I'll get

Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.

2015-09-12 Thread tilt!
Hi Jonathan, no please! I was kidding, as indicated by smileys interleaved with my postings! :-D BTW if you have the time to do it, and if you think it brings you something, why should a random guy from the internet like i be the one who gives thumbs up or down? Should it be your serious

Re: [DNG] libpam-xdg-support / libpam-systemd

2015-09-12 Thread tilt!
Hi, On 09/12/2015 12:52 PM, tilt! wrote: > [...] > I will think about this a bit more, but currently it converges > towards a SUID helper and a separately configured directory for > refcounts. Here's my shot at it: https://git.devuan.org/tilt/xdg-compat It uses a setuid-bit-executable that

Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.

2015-09-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 04:04:14PM +, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > Hi tilt!Is this a serious response?  I ask because the other > candidates-- an obscure language and a dead language-- were not. Programming language popularity is more a matter of fashion than technical excellence. Modula 3

[DNG] Programming languages for netman?

2015-09-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 01:49:57AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > It was not Pascal the successor of Modula? Pascal cne after Algol W. Modula came after Pascal. Modula 2 came after Modula. Oberon came after Modula 2. All these languages were designed by Niklaus Wirth. Modula 3 was creted by

Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.

2015-09-12 Thread aitor_czr
It was not Pascal the successor of Modula? El 12/09/15 a las 22:38, Hendrik Boom escribió: Modula 3 isn't dead. Moribund, maybe, but not dead. And it easily beats a number of madly popular languages for systems programming. Its one of the few languages I've used in

Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.

2015-09-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 08:38:40PM +, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > It depends completely on the random guy. :) > If you were a knowledgeable advocate of Guile and saw the same risks of > "winging it" with C strings, then there'd now be at least two devs with a > vested interest in a port of the

Re: [DNG] libpam-xdg-support / libpam-systemd

2015-09-12 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 10:32:13PM +0200, tilt! wrote: > Hi, > > On 09/12/2015 12:52 PM, tilt! wrote: > > [...] > > I will think about this a bit more, but currently it converges > > towards a SUID helper and a separately configured directory for > > refcounts. > > Here's my shot at it: > >

Re: [DNG] Programming languages for netman?

2015-09-12 Thread Peter Olson
> On September 12, 2015 at 10:36 PM Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 01:49:57AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > > It was not Pascal the successor of Modula? > > Pascal cne after Algol W. Modula came after Pascal. Modula 2 came > after Modula. Oberon came

Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.

2015-09-12 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 03:50:57AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > I recomend you to eat a pizza with Jaromil > :) How do you know I have not had a pizza with Jaromil already? HND KatolaZ -- [ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ --- GLUG Catania -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ me [at] katolaz.homeunix.net --

Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.

2015-09-12 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2015-09-11 at 22:34 +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > You are right Edward, i was thinking in the transposition matrix. > > > El 11/09/15 a las 19:32, Edward Bartolo escribió: > > > > > > > only square matrices can > > > have an inverse If a square matrix is singular, i.e. the determinant is

Re: [DNG] libpam-xdg-support / libpam-systemd

2015-09-12 Thread tilt!
Hi Isaac, On 09/11/2015 09:30 PM, Isaac Dunham wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:23:38AM +0200, tilt! wrote: Unadressed remains the lifecycle of $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, >> specifically: [...] >> * When is $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR created? >> [...] Currently my best guess is that this should be

Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.

2015-09-12 Thread tilt!
On 09/11/2015 08:57 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > [...] To anyone else mortified by this thread: name any of the obviously preferable languages for this job and I'll try my hand at porting to that language. I can't guarantee I'll know exactly what I'm doing, but I can guarantee that an entire

Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.

2015-09-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 05:30:23PM +0200, tilt! wrote: > On 09/11/2015 08:57 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > [...] > >To anyone else mortified by this thread: name any of the obviously > >preferable languages for this job and I'll try my hand at porting to > >that language. I can't guarantee I'll

Re: [DNG] About the issues on the devuan repositories

2015-09-12 Thread Matteo Panella
On 12/09/2015 15:22, Hendrik Boom wrote: > At least, not to be shut down by the changes; amprolla might stll > need to be changed if the Debian repository structure changes in > order to get the most recent packages. The structure didn't change, other sections of the archive still have the

Re: [DNG] Debugging netman auto-connect.

2015-09-12 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Hendrik Boom writes: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 06:57:04PM +, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >> Wow, we've gone from "I don't understand c strings" to "let me explain them >> using matrices". >> >> To anyone else mortified by this thread: name any of the obviously >>