Debian installer offers four major DEs as an option: GNOME, KDE, Xfce,
LXDE.
For a decade, I've been using Fluxbox as window manager. I have no
intend to change any window manager over Fluxbox unless there is
significant benefit from it.
Debian users are scarce nowadays. Even in Debian commu
I still prefer JAAM though... :P
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 9:07 PM, dev1fanboy
wrote:
> the 'd' would be a little annoying, but many programs use a joke in the
> name
>
> I thought a-mount because it's similar to pmount and would not seem out of
> place
>
> On Monday, December 28, 2015 11:19 PM, E
the 'd' would be a little annoying, but many programs use a joke in the name
I thought a-mount because it's similar to pmount and would not seem out of place
On Monday, December 28, 2015 11:19 PM, Emiliano Marini
wrote:
> amountd LOL
>
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 7:36 PM, dev1fanboy
> wrote:
>
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 20:19:45 -0300
Emiliano Marini wrote:
> amountd LOL
True story, I named the program to control it amtctl.py. I'll be dang
if I'm going to let Lennart squat on a whole set of names. Steve Jobs
has the clout to do that, not Lennart.
SteveT
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On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 08:53:10PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 08:19:45PM -0300, Emiliano Marini wrote:
> > amountd LOL
>
> Of course. After all, it is a demon.
>
> But if it's a demmon that does mnt, perhaps it should be amntd?
Sorry for the noise. Cancel that. I go
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 08:19:45PM -0300, Emiliano Marini wrote:
> amountd LOL
Of course. After all, it is a demon.
But if it's a demmon that does mnt, perhaps it should be amntd?
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Okay, will revise my other post..
If it's to be a lighter version, I suggest nearly everything should go but the
desktop, a mixer, browser, document viewer, mousepad, and what's needed to
automount and something that can play music maybe if that's already included in
the non light version
On
I give vi +1 for "being everywhere in unix"
and nano +1 because I'm too lazy to learn vi
On Monday, December 28, 2015 11:43 PM, Adam Borowski
wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 03:35:38PM -0500, Mitt Green wrote:
>> > No, no, no. If you install vim* you also have to install emacs. Keep
>> > nano a
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 03:35:38PM -0500, Mitt Green wrote:
> > No, no, no. If you install vim* you also have to install emacs. Keep
> > nano as default editor!
>
> Editor war will never end even though everybody knows that vi(m)
> is the best.
That's a heresy! It's jstar (package joe) that's th
amountd LOL
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 7:36 PM, dev1fanboy
wrote:
> only that "amount" (a-mount) would sound better
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 28, 2015 6:29 PM, Steve Litt <
> sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > If anybody sees a compelling reason not to call the automounter
> >
only that "amount" (a-mount) would sound better
On Monday, December 28, 2015 6:29 PM, Steve Litt
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> If anybody sees a compelling reason not to call the automounter
> "amounter", please speak now or forever hold your peace.
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
> November 2015 featured
I usually only use tasksel when setting up for others, but my idea of a light
setup is the desktop itself, ristretto image viewer, and iceweasel and the
mixer panel plugin (if that's not broke altogether)
Adding things like libreoffice, the gimp, and a document viewer for pdf (but
without pulse
nano/vim both get installed before tasksel starts up
but yeah really only one editor is needed for system configs
On Monday, December 28, 2015 8:35 PM, Mitt Green
wrote:
>> No, no, no. If you install vim* you also have to install emacs. Keep
>> nano as default editor!
>
> Editor war will neve
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 01:29:29PM +, Simon Hobson wrote:
> A couple of years ago, I surprised a group I'd given a presentation to by
> "Safely removing" hardware before I yanked my USB stick !
Yeah. I noticed a tech savvy friend of mine yanking his flash drive
whenever he pleases. I told him
Am Montag, 28. Dezember 2015 schrieb Hendrik Boom:
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 08:54:29PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 19:37:08 +0100, Didier wrote in message
> > <56818154.2070...@in2p3.fr>:
> >
> > > Le 28/12/2015 19:22, Simon Hobson a écrit :
> > > > The cache gets written
On Mon, 12/28/15, Steve Litt wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Monday, December 28, 2015, 2:04 PM
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 14:49:04 -0500
Mitt Green wrote:
> golinux wrote:
>
> >I specifically asked what should be REMOVED from the defaul
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 08:54:29PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 19:37:08 +0100, Didier wrote in message
> <56818154.2070...@in2p3.fr>:
>
> > Le 28/12/2015 19:22, Simon Hobson a écrit :
> > > The cache gets written out when the background system processes
> > > clean up and wri
> No, no, no. If you install vim* you also have to install emacs. Keep
> nano as default editor!
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On Mon, 2015-12-28 at 09:26 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 06:59:31 -0500
> Mitt Green wrote:
>
> > And also I'd go with vim-tiny as it is really close to the original
> > and without nano by default.
>
> And make sure it is in /sbin, so it is accessible when the boot
> proce
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 03:04:35PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 14:49:04 -0500
> Mitt Green wrote:
>
> > golinux wrote:
> >
> > >I specifically asked what should be REMOVED from the default xfce
> > >desktop
> >
> > Nothing. Xfce even lack necessary components like pdf viewe
>This is something I never understood. Why expect your window
>manager/desktop environment to give you functionalities? Why not
>install them a-la-carte to get the exact system you want?
Steve,
I only suggested what should be installed by default
and included on a proposed LiveCD. I think that
a
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 14:49:04 -0500
Mitt Green wrote:
> golinux wrote:
>
> >I specifically asked what should be REMOVED from the default xfce
> >desktop
>
> Nothing. Xfce even lack necessary components like pdf viewer and a
> file archiver (xarchiver is not their project right? They had squeez
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 19:37:08 +0100, Didier wrote in message
<56818154.2070...@in2p3.fr>:
> Le 28/12/2015 19:22, Simon Hobson a écrit :
> > The cache gets written out when the background system processes
> > clean up and write the dirty pages out to disk. How long this takes
> > depends on tuneabl
golinux wrote:
>I specifically asked what should be REMOVED from the default xfce desktop
Nothing. Xfce even lack necessary components like pdf viewer and a file
archiver (xarchiver is not
their project right? They had squeeze back then but it's no longer maintained
now).
>LaTex would be as us
On 29/12/15 03:38, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 09:20:05AM -0500, Mitt Green wrote:
>> Adam Borowski wrote:
>>
>>> Note that xfce4 in unstable doesn't support alsa anymore as sound platform
>>> agnostic xfce4-mixer has been dropped. The replacement,
>>> xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, is
>xfce4-mixer and xfce4-volumed relying on this
>interface with gstreamer0.10, our mixer
>application and volume daemon cannot be ported
>to 1.0 and are consequently not maintained
>anymore.
Heh, how do they think we are going manage our
sound I wonder.
Xfce has always been lacking a couple of thi
Well 'amounter' is somewhat generic in some waysI did come up with JAAM
(Just an automounter) which sounds a bit more amusing and is also shorter.
(It's at least amusing to me that is...).
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Steve Litt
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> If anybody sees a compelling reason no
Le 28/12/2015 19:22, Simon Hobson a écrit :
The cache gets written out when the background system processes clean up and
write the dirty pages out to disk. How long this takes depends on tuneable
kernel parameters and how busy the system is. If the system, and in particular
the storage, is oth
Hi all,
If anybody sees a compelling reason not to call the automounter
"amounter", please speak now or forever hold your peace.
SteveT
Steve Litt
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of the Successful Technologist
http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques
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Steve Litt wrote:
> I did a test. I created hello.txt, put "hello world" in it, saved it,
> and yanked out the thumb three seconds later. Of course the
> whole /media/sdd1 tree vanished. When I plugged in the thumb again,
> hello.txt contained exactly what I'd typed in it. Now of course, this
> i
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 11:20:33 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 05:17:01PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> > Le 28/12/2015 14:29, Simon Hobson a écrit :
> > >Didier Kryn wrote:
> > >
> > >>>There remains a fundamental problem with automatic mount/umount.
> > >>>While automountin
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 10:42:15 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Are there other window
> managers we could use in the name of minimalism?
There are approximately one million, three hundred and thirty two
thousand, one hundred and ninety eight excellent window managers you
can use in the name of minimal
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 14:25:15 +0100
Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 11:16:17AM +0100, aitor_czr wrote:
> > I propose a new package 'xfce4-default-settings' to customize the
> > default appearance of the desktop in devuan. I also propose
> > alsa-oss,
>
> Note that xfce4 in unstab
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 12:20:01 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Congratulations, Steve.
>
> There remains a fundamental problem with automatic mount/umount.
> While automounting is safe, auto-unmounting is not if it is triggered
> by device removal. Unmounting must be done *before* removing
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 11:16:17 +0100
aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 12/28/2015 02:07 AM, Go Linux e.org wrote:
> > It's quite a long list. If you see anything in there you can live
> > without, please post to the issue on git
> >
> > #apt-cache show task-xfce-desktop
> > #apt-cache show xfce4-good
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 05:17:01PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 28/12/2015 14:29, Simon Hobson a écrit :
> >Didier Kryn wrote:
> >
> >>>There remains a fundamental problem with automatic mount/umount. While
> >>>automounting is safe, auto-unmounting is not if it is triggered by device
> >>>rem
Le 28/12/2015 14:29, Simon Hobson a écrit :
Didier Kryn wrote:
>There remains a fundamental problem with automatic mount/umount. While
automounting is safe, auto-unmounting is not if it is triggered by device removal.
>Unmounting must be done*before* removing the device if anything has been
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 09:20:05AM -0500, Mitt Green wrote:
> Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> >Note that xfce4 in unstable doesn't support alsa anymore as sound platform
> >agnostic xfce4-mixer has been dropped. The replacement,
> >xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, is pulseaudio only.
>
> I reckon it haven't rea
On Mon, 12/28/15, Mitt Green wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] Proposals for an xfce-desktop-lite
To: "Go Linux"
Cc: "dng@lists.dyne.org"
Date: Monday, December 28, 2015, 5:59 AM
>
> I am currently using file-roller and evince from squeeze and am trying to
> avoid gtk3
> where it possible because
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 09:20:05AM -0500, Mitt Green wrote:
> Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> >Note that xfce4 in unstable doesn't support alsa anymore as sound platform
> >agnostic xfce4-mixer has been dropped. The replacement,
> >xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, is pulseaudio only.
>
> I reckon it haven't rea
Adam Borowski wrote:
>Note that xfce4 in unstable doesn't support alsa anymore as sound platform
>agnostic xfce4-mixer has been dropped. The replacement,
>xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, is pulseaudio only.
I reckon it haven't really dropped yet, there is 4.11 version in
Experimental, one day it may bec
Didier Kryn wrote:
> There remains a fundamental problem with automatic mount/umount. While
> automounting is safe, auto-unmounting is not if it is triggered by device
> removal.
> Unmounting must be done *before* removing the device if anything has been
> written to it, otherwise data is los
On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 11:16:17AM +0100, aitor_czr wrote:
> I propose a new package 'xfce4-default-settings' to customize the default
> appearance of the desktop in devuan. I also propose alsa-oss,
Note that xfce4 in unstable doesn't support alsa anymore as sound platform
agnostic xfce4-mixer has
On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 09:03:35PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
[cut]
>
> Finally, I'd prefer this program run as a user other than root (which
> it's doing right now).
>
Hi Steve,
in Debian/Devuan and derivatives it might be sufficient to have your
automounter run under a user which belongs to
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 06:59:31 -0500
Mitt Green wrote:
> And also I'd go with vim-tiny as it is really close to the original and
> without nano by default.
And make sure it is in /sbin, so it is accessible when the boot process aborts,
and /usr is not mounted ;-3(
Cheers,
Ron.
--
Se
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 12:44:36 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> This is the result of the Debian policy of installing a maximum of
> packages because it's free. I'm not saying this against libreoffice; I
> use it sometimes but not on all hosts. I bet more than half the packages
> installed in Deb
I'd suggest to have the following applications by default (by categories from
Applications Menu):
1) Accessories: xarchiver, xfce4-appfinder, mousepad;
2) Games: xlennart :)
3) Graphics: ristretto;
4) Internet: iceweasel, transmission-gtk, xchat, netman or dhcpcd-gtk;
5) Multimedia: parole, xfce4
Le 28/12/2015 00:29, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 09:38:09PM +, Go Linux wrote:
As a result of a discussion on #devuan, I've opened an issue for suggestions to
make the xfce desktop lighter here:
https://git.devuan.org/d-i/tasksel/issues/12
Personally, I'd start with lib
Le 28/12/2015 03:03, Steve Litt a écrit :
Hi all,
I have the automounter running, incompletioncies and all. It's running
off of Runit, but I'm sure it would work with sysvinit or /etc/rc.local
or pretty much anything else.
Assuming you don't actually edit anything, when you plug in a thumb
driv
"or if the systemd opponents will learn to accept it."
What obsequious piece of text.
On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Mitt Green
wrote:
> A transcript from (the latest) Debian Handbook:
>
> A.9. Devuan
> Devuan is a relatively new fork of Debian: it started in 2014 as a
> reaction to the decis
Hi,
On 12/28/2015 02:07 AM, Go Linux e.org wrote:
It's quite a long list. If you see anything in there you can live without,
please post to the issue on git
#apt-cache show task-xfce-desktop
#apt-cache show xfce4-goodies
dev1fanboy has a minimal list posted here:
https://git.devuan.org/dev1
Is it safe to assume you're going to commit this to the Devuan repo?
Linux O'Beardly
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linux.obear...@gmail.com
On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Steve Litt
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have the automounter running, incompletioncies and all. It's running
> off of Runit,
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