Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:41:38PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: [cut] > > But the loop in > > static char const *get_name(char const *arg0) > { > char const *n, *r; > > n = r = arg0; > while (*r) if (*r++ == '/') n = r; > return n; > } > > is not of this type. It contains an

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:48:50 +, Simon wrote in message <42725396-018e-4453-9f90-31c2877c1...@thehobsons.co.uk>: > Mitt Green wrote: > > > They can request a refund before activating the > > license, but will actually receive a smaller amount of > > money than they

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

Hi Everyone, The purpose of this mail thread is to stimulate discussion about the subject, as it is becoming increasingly harder to purchase Linux friendly hardware. I don't know whether the following is paranoia or fact, but I get an uncomfortable itch when I enter a shop boasting of having a

Re: [DNG] Readable code; making code more easily writable; Emacs, multifiles-apmod; VUE; Code Bubbles; Lisp; Inform 7; HyperCard and HyperTalk - was Re: "Common knowledge?"-question

Apollia writes: > Rainer Weikusat wrote: > >> Apollia writes: [...] >>> I often like to use long, descriptive names for functions and >>> variables, [...] >> combined-list-of-files-in-all-source-folders >> >>

[DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

Hi All, Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows installed. Are you experiencing the same difficulty and what do you do when you need to buy a new machine? Edward

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

I mostly build my own computers, as far as my laptop goes I went for good specs and yes that meant I had to sacrifice and get it preinstalled with windows. This might be on me, I did notice freedos installations available on slightly lower spec laptops. It's one of those cost of freedom issues.

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

We actually have a lot of shops, mostly small, that do their business in Internet, they offer cheap low-end laptops (well, having 4GB of RAM is low-end these days). Dell has own line with Ubuntu pre-installed. There is also an option to buy one of those Pis, especially Pi Zero, which is

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

On Tue, 1/26/16, Edward Bartolo wrote: Subject: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop. To: "dng" Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 12:46 PM Hi All, Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making it very difficult to buy a

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

‎I wrote: >they offer cheap low-end laptops (well, having 4GB of RAM is low-end these days). They have Linux pre-installed, forgot to mention. I've seen maybe a couple only high-end laptops with Linux, and they are made by Dell. So, looking through the market, chances are, you'll see galore,

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

2016-01-26 19:46 GMT+01:00, Edward Bartolo : > Hi All, > > Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making > it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows > installed. > > Are you experiencing the same difficulty and what do you do when you

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

Peter Olson writes: >> On January 25, 2016 at 5:54 PM Rainer Weikusat >> wrote: > > [...] > >> A related but IMHO more interesting set of questions could be: >> >> 1. Should every trivial crap $someone ever implemented since 1978 end up >>in

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

You buy the laptop with Windows 10 installed, make sure everything works then install the distro of your choice. No dual-booting. VeryPC in the UK make small eco-friendly desktops that they are happy to sell without an OS. I might get one when the iMac finally breaks. You could always have a

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

‎Dave Turner wrote:   >You buy the laptop with Windows 10 installed When buying a machine with Windows pre-installed, a customer pays for Windows as well. They can request a refund before activating the license, but will actually receive a smaller amount of money than they spent, if some at all

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

Hi. [My first post to this list] I recently bought a used Dell laptop that had Windows 7 pre-installed and just completely formatted the hard drive and installed Debian 7 on it (Before I became aware of this list). It, Debian 7, recognized all of the hardware without any problems. I

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 07:46:40PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making > it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows > installed. > > Are you experiencing the same difficulty and what do you do when

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 07:46:40PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Hi All, > > Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making > it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows > installed. > > Are you experiencing the same difficulty and what do you do when

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

Le 26/01/2016 19:18, Hendrik Boom a écrit : There seem to be viable ARM processors, and I've even heard mention of an ARM laptop; I've got a Pi-Top, a laptop built around a Raspberry Pi. It's the first model, crowd-funded. I wouldn't recommend it. I had very little time to devote to it

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

Hendrik Boom writes: [...] > There seem to be viable ARM processors, and I've even heard mention of > an ARM laptop; I've had no luck tracking it down. Does anyone else > know of a source? Not really a laptop but something I was seriously tempted to buy a couple of

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

With desktop computers, it's not too hard to find one with FreeDos installed by default, or no OS. Linux usually works fine on these machines. A few years ago I bought a Toshiba Satellite laptop with FreeDos installed by default, and it was cheap. No money to Microsoft, and Linux worked like a

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

Le 26/01/2016 23:40, Robert Storey a écrit : With desktop computers, it's not too hard to find one with FreeDos installed by default, or no OS. Linux usually works fine on these machines. I've seen that few years ago on some machines I bought for my job. I bet it was Dell Poweredge

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

Mitt Green wrote: > They can request a refund before activating the > license, but will actually receive a smaller amount of > money than they spent, if some at all at all. I recall reading how one person, after a fight to get anything, got much more ! This isn't the case

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

KatolaZ writes: > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 05:44:11PM -0500, Peter Olson wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> This also brings up the question of whether you should roll your own >> get_name or >> use basename(3) which already does the same thing except in some edge cases. >> It's

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

Robert Storey wrote: > Since the Mac doesn't have a ctrl key, the following was a particularly > relevant post: Really ? Mine does, there between the fn and alt keys - standard UK keyboard on a MacBook Pro. I think it will be model/keyboard specific. You can always

[DNG] Sending mail to <onel...@devuan.org>

Has anyone experience sending e-mail to the listed contact e-mail for the project ? I just tried, and got bounced by a purported "SPF: mechanism" error: BEGIN === corellia.eurodns.com rejected a message that claimed

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

> On January 26, 2016 at 2:30 PM Rainer Weikusat > wrote: > > Peter Olson writes: > >> On January 25, 2016 at 5:54 PM Rainer Weikusat > >> wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> A related but IMHO more interesting set of

Re: [DNG] Experiencing with GtkBuilder

Hi, On 12/15/15 12:25, aitor_czr wrote: Hi Rainer, On 20/11/15 12:11, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >aitor_czr writes: >> >As i said in ahother thead, i'm experiencing with GtkBuilder. >> > >> >The following example

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:43:40AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 07:46:40PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making > > it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows > > installed.

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater

Peter Olson writes: [...] >> it (the string would need to be copied, including handling errors in > > Living on the edge? The standardized definition of the function requests that unless one is happy with the original string being changed.

Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop

Simon Hobson To: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop Message-ID: <319f6090-0a9b-47d4-84b3-1d1a8b297...@thehobsons.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Robert Storey wrote: >> Since the Mac doesn't

[DNG] PC compatibility to non-Microsoft software

Forgive me. I have been flamed before because of my posts on this mailing list, but a comment on newer PC's and their non-compatibility with non-Microsoft software led me to risk this posting. I think that ultimately, EFF or the GNU folks will need to pursue lobbying for legislation to prevent

Re: [DNG] Icerbergs aren't small just because they're mostly underwater (was: "Common knowledge?"-question)

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 05:44:11PM -0500, Peter Olson wrote: [cut] > > This also brings up the question of whether you should roll your own get_name > or > use basename(3) which already does the same thing except in some edge cases. > It's easier for the student to understand the code if it

Re: [DNG] "Common knowledge?"-question

Steve Litt writes: > Rainer Weikusat wrote: > >> Can the effect of the following C function >> >> static void print_start(char const *name, char const *what) >> { [...] >> } >> >> be considered obvious or should it rather get an