Re: [DNG] Speaking of Window Managers

2016-02-28 Thread Robert Storey
Steve Litt wrote: ‎ >>Here's info on dmenu: > >dmenu is made by suckless.org: >http://tools.suckless.org/dmenu/ > >>Hotkey to bring up Dmenu? > >Alt+p, default in dwm (and some other). > >Hotkey to bring up window list sorted by workspace? Just one thing I want to say about hotkeys, is that it wou

Re: [DNG] Speaking of Window Managers

2016-02-28 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:06:37 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > What about JWM? Is it of good enough quality? I am trying it now, and > looks it may be a replacement candidate for XFCE. > > Edward JWM is good, especially when hooked up with Dmenu. But the JWM I've tried out is aesthetically ugly. Th

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-28 Thread dev1fanboy
Little late to this discussion but, There are already some gnomish dependencies in the form of automounting via gvfs (uses libsystemd0 already) for thunar, and the same with midori depending on gnomes key storage backend (since it's the only implementation of such a thing afaik). Cheers, ch

Re: [DNG] Speaking of Window Managers

2016-02-28 Thread Edward Bartolo
What about JWM? Is it of good enough quality? I am trying it now, and looks it may be a replacement candidate for XFCE. Edward ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] OT: Assembly resources

2016-02-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 09:07:01PM +0800, Brad Campbell wrote: > > I started with the 6502 and a dead tree of the Apple ][ ROM source a > couple of moons ago. That was so much more pleasant than x86 > assembly, but that method works just as well. x86 has an ugly machine language, and with all the

Re: [DNG] Speaking of Window Managers

2016-02-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 05:14:38PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 08:35:05AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > [cut] > > > > I belive there is little point in asking such questions: you will get > > > as many different answers as the number of people who provide an > > > answer... >

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 01:38:38PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > But then, to fill their pocketbooks, Gates and Jobs convinced the world > that only geniuses could use CLI, and all of a sudden you were a > neckbeard if you used CLI. Then Redhat jumped on the bandwagon. To be fair, I was overjoyed

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 02:15:33PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:03:10 +0100 > Edward Bartolo wrote: > > > > If Devuan fails to package XFCE it will be a blow for me as window > > managers are not suitable for my eyesight. > > I don't think anyone suggested removing XFCE f

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-28 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 17:03:10 +0100 Edward Bartolo wrote: > If Devuan fails to package XFCE it will be a blow for me as window > managers are not suitable for my eyesight. I don't think anyone suggested removing XFCE from Devuan. That would be a grave error. I think they were just talking abou

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-28 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 08:22:20 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > I like icewm, too, and will be trying the others you mention just in > case I'm missing something I'm not yet aware of. > > I tried lxde and didn't like it -- somehow the mouse became just > slightly jerky and slightly unresponsive.

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-28 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 21:03:05 -1000 Joel Roth wrote: > On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 02:32:45AM +, hellekin wrote: > > On 02/27/2016 03:28 AM, Simon Wise wrote: > > > > > > something as minimal as possible, like above, seems a very good > > > option. > > > > I dream of a core Devuan that is mo

Re: [DNG] Speaking of Window Managers

2016-02-28 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 08:35:05AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: [cut] > > I belive there is little point in asking such questions: you will get > > as many different answers as the number of people who provide an > > answer... > > There is a purely technical aspects to this question: > >con

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-28 Thread Edward Bartolo
Since the first days of using GNU/Linux around a decade ago, I used a desktop that mimics Windows 9* and Windows 2000. At first, it was KDE, but since around five years ago, KDE started to get bloated with unwelcome additions like nepumuk and automatic file indexing which took too much of my CPU's

Re: [DNG] Speaking of Window Managers

2016-02-28 Thread Go Linux
On Sun, 2/28/16, Haines Brown wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Speaking of Window Managers To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Sunday, February 28, 2016, 6:38 AM On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:20:50PM +, Dave Turner wrote: >> >> I hate hotkeys in GUIs and never use them. At all. Ever. Give me a >> menu a

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-28 Thread Dave Turner
On 28/02/16 13:22, Hendrik Boom wrote: I think the above is closest to my views on the matter. Which window manager and desktop environment I choose to use is up to me and nothing for devuan to worry about. I use xfce a lot and would like it to work on devuan, but don't waste valuable time on it

Re: [DNG] Speaking of Window Managers

2016-02-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 09:42:04AM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 12:05:50AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > Just for fun, I'd like some opinions. If a Window Manager were > > integrated with Dmenu (which is trivially easy usually), what hotkeys > > would you recomm

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:15:13PM +0100, aitor_czr wrote: > El 27/02/16 13:00, Go Linux escribió: > >Or perhaps, with Go Linux' wallpaper artwork, we*set* the fashion. Has > >anyone seen his theme? It's pretty good. > > > >SteveT > > > > > > > >Correct

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 08:44:37AM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2016 26 Feb 17:16 -0600, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 10:46:58 +0100 > > Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > > > > > IIUC, LXDE's decision to go Qt was based on the fact that it otherwise > > > and rather sooner than lat

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:31:08PM +, Dave Turner wrote: > On 28/02/16 07:03, Joel Roth wrote: > >On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 02:32:45AM +, hellekin wrote: > >>On 02/27/2016 03:28 AM, Simon Wise wrote: > >>>something as minimal as possible, like above, seems a very good option. > >>I dream of a

Re: [DNG] Speaking of Window Managers

2016-02-28 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi, Hot keys use depends on the amount of effort required for one to remember them. In my case, either memory is retained effortlessly with regular use or I don't use any. On 28/02/2016, Haines Brown wrote: > On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:20:50PM +, Dave Turner wrote: > >> I hate hotkeys in GU

Re: [DNG] OT: Assembly resources

2016-02-28 Thread Brad Campbell
On 28/02/16 17:49, Mitt Green wrote: Hi, I believe, here are some people that know assembly, I'd like to know what resources would ye recommend that teach it. Preferably AT&T syntax using gas. I do my coding in C, but always wondered about something low level. Also, I have a book The Art of A

Re: [DNG] Speaking of Window Managers

2016-02-28 Thread Haines Brown
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 12:20:50PM +, Dave Turner wrote: > I hate hotkeys in GUIs and never use them. At all. Ever. Give me a > menu and a mouse. I can understand that, but there seems no reason not to provide both hot keys and menus. My sense is that switching between mouse and keyboard is

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-28 Thread Dave Turner
On 28/02/16 07:03, Joel Roth wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 02:32:45AM +, hellekin wrote: On 02/27/2016 03:28 AM, Simon Wise wrote: something as minimal as possible, like above, seems a very good option. I dream of a core Devuan that is modular so that the Desktop Environment is a *blend*

Re: [DNG] Speaking of Window Managers

2016-02-28 Thread Dave Turner
On 27/02/16 05:05, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Here's info on dmenu: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/dmenu http://linux.die.net/man/1/dmenu http://troubleshooters.com/lpm/201406/201406.htm#use_faster_tools_dmenu Just for fun, I'd like some opinions. If a Window Manager were integrated wit

Re: [DNG] A heads up about xfce's future

2016-02-28 Thread aitor_czr
El 27/02/16 13:00, Go Linux escribió: Or perhaps, with Go Linux' wallpaper artwork, we*set* the fashion. Has anyone seen his theme? It's pretty good. SteveT Correction: hellekin and I worked together on the wallpaper.;) We make quite a team!

[DNG] OT: Assembly resources

2016-02-28 Thread Mitt Green
Hi, I believe, here are some people that know assembly, I'd like to know what resources would ye recommend that teach it. Preferably AT&T syntax using gas. I do my coding in C, but always wondered about something low level. Also, I have a book The Art  of Assembly Language, that focuses on Windo