Re: [DNG] use zram for /tmp - how?

2016-06-04 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 04 Jun 2016 21:14:23 + schrieb Florian Zieboll : > just guessing as I am usually rather low on ram... following the > debian wiki link, for a first try i'd adapt the $SIZE and replace the > mkswap/swapon lines of the script with "mount /dev/zram$i /tmp" and > comment out the stop/swapo

Re: [DNG] use zram for /tmp - how?

2016-06-04 Thread emninger
Am Sat, 04 Jun 2016 21:14:23 + schrieb parazyd : > For /tmp I would definitely use tmpfs. > It's as simple as adding an entry to the fstab > > tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid,size=2G 0 0 > > In this example, your /tmp will be 2 gigabytes big, but tmpfs will > keep your /tmp in RAM, while n

Re: [DNG] man init

2016-06-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 16:58:24 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20160604155824.gw32...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 09:10:05PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > > My system is devuan/jessie, upgraded from debian. > > > > It's interesting that 'man init' brings up the > > systemd man pa

Re: [DNG] Init compatibility (was: SoylentNews discussion)

2016-06-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 22:06:47 +0100 Simon Hobson wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > > In all daemontools-inspired process supervisors, dependency > > handling, if you indeed need it, is just this easy: > > > > == > > #!/bin/sh > > if ping ; then > > exec

Re: [DNG] use zram for /tmp - how?

2016-06-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Jun 04, 2016 at 10:17:58PM +0200, parazyd wrote: > For /tmp I would definitely use tmpfs. > It's as simple as adding an entry to the fstab > > tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid,size=2G 0 0 > > In this example, your /tmp will be 2 gigabytes big, but tmpfs will keep > your /tmp in RAM, whil

Re: [DNG] Init compatibility (was: SoylentNews discussion)

2016-06-04 Thread Florian Zieboll
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 19:41:02 +0100 Simon Hobson wrote: > Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > Seriously, what else besides dependencies on other daemons that > > have to be running and some testing for the existence of certain > > (everything is) files would be necessary to pass to a parser > > script,

Re: [DNG] Init compatibility (was: SoylentNews discussion)

2016-06-04 Thread Simon Hobson
Steve Litt wrote: > In all daemontools-inspired process supervisors, dependency handling, > if you indeed need it, is just this easy: > > == > #!/bin/sh > if ping ; then > exec /path/to/app_depending_on_network > fi > sleep 1 > ===

Re: [DNG] use zram for /tmp - how?

2016-06-04 Thread parazyd
For /tmp I would definitely use tmpfs. It's as simple as adding an entry to the fstab tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid,size=2G 0 0 In this example, your /tmp will be 2 gigabytes big, but tmpfs will keep your /tmp in RAM, while not cutting off the entire 2GB of your system's RAM. It will only use

Re: [DNG] use zram for /tmp - how?

2016-06-04 Thread Florian Zieboll
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 21:44:37 +0200 wrote: > Anyone of you knows a way how to use zram for /tmp ? > > (...) > > I did not find anything for debian. Only zram for swap like here > (https://wiki.debian.org/ZRam) and here > (http://forum.linuxvillage.org/index.php?topic=92.0) just guessing as I am

Re: [DNG] Init compatibility (was: SoylentNews discussion)

2016-06-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 11:49:25 +0200 Florian Zieboll wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 03:27:16 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 00:42:46 +0200 > > Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > > > My experience with init systems is mostly limited sysV init (well, > > > also busybox and system d).

[DNG] use zram for /tmp - how?

2016-06-04 Thread emninger
Anyone of you knows a way how to use zram for /tmp ? (I inherited a sony_vaio with 16 gb of ram - which i never ever will/could use, so i thought to use the excessive ram configuring zram). For OpenRc there are scripts to utilize zram either/and for swap and/or for tmp. They are looking like this

Re: [DNG] man init

2016-06-04 Thread . fsmithred
Another one you might lose when you remove libsystemd0 is gvfs, but maybe you didn't install that to begin with. I have to tell my laptop to suspend before I close the lid, otherwise, nothing happens. It comes back automatically when I lift the lid. -fsr On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Joel Roth

Re: [DNG] Init compatibility (was: SoylentNews discussion)

2016-06-04 Thread Simon Hobson
Florian Zieboll wrote: > Seriously, what else besides dependencies on other daemons that have to > be running and some testing for the existence of certain (everything is) > files would be necessary to pass to a parser script, which could be > packaged with the respective init system? Are we in

Re: [DNG] man init

2016-06-04 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Jun 04, 2016 at 11:51:12AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > On Fri, 03 Jun 2016, Joel Roth wrote: > > > My system is devuan/jessie, upgraded from debian. > > > > It's interesting that 'man init' brings up the > > systemd man page. > > strange! I don't have that on my laptop (installed from devua

[DNG] Swoosh for .signature

2016-06-04 Thread KatolaZ
Well, I don't know how many of us still use the old-fashioned 4/5 lines .signature, but who happens to have one and use Devuan could find this 5-lines swoosh useful, and those more versed in ascii-arts might actually be inspired to produce a cool one: ~.,_ "+. @) @@) (@@@)

Re: [DNG] man init

2016-06-04 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 09:10:05PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > My system is devuan/jessie, upgraded from debian. > > It's interesting that 'man init' brings up the > systemd man page. > All my systems were upgraded from Debian Wheezy/Jessie, and man init is about sysvinit. HND KatolaZ -- [ En

Re: [DNG] SoylentNews discussion

2016-06-04 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 04/06/2016 17:11, Dan Purgert a écrit : I think you misinterpreted my 'on the fly' comment. I didn't mean at boot time, but rather at install / setup. That is, add an "init system" choice along with "desktop: Mate/XFCE/etc.", "print server", "ssh server" [...] Ideed, I did misinterpret

Re: [DNG] ifconfig vs ip

2016-06-04 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Simon Walter writes: [...] > I am adding containers (LXC) and > virtual network to the box, I think I will add an tap and bridge > interface to an /etc/network/interface.d/ file. If I use something > like: > > auto br0 > iface br0 inet static > pre-up ip tuntap add dev tap0 mode tap > pr

Re: [DNG] SoylentNews discussion

2016-06-04 Thread Dan Purgert
Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 03/06/2016 19:31, Dan Purgert a écrit : > >Is it possible during setup to choose the init system on the fly? I > >mean, we can choose Cinnamon / Mate / xfce / etc for the DE as it is (or > >all of them - although I expect having multiple competing init binaries > >is bad).

Re: [DNG] man init

2016-06-04 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 04/06/2016 14:00, Nate Bargmann a écrit : * On 2016 04 Jun 04:52 -0500, Jaromil wrote: On Fri, 03 Jun 2016, Joel Roth wrote: My system is devuan/jessie, upgraded from debian. It's interesting that 'man init' brings up the systemd man page. strange! I don't have that on my laptop (installe

Re: [DNG] man init

2016-06-04 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2016 04 Jun 04:52 -0500, Jaromil wrote: > On Fri, 03 Jun 2016, Joel Roth wrote: > > > My system is devuan/jessie, upgraded from debian. > > > > It's interesting that 'man init' brings up the > > systemd man page. > > strange! I don't have that on my laptop (installed from devuan > directly

Re: [DNG] Init compatibility (was: SoylentNews discussion)

2016-06-04 Thread Florian Zieboll
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 03:27:16 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 00:42:46 +0200 > Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > My experience with init systems is mostly limited sysV init (well, > > also busybox and system d). That said, I wonder, what information > > any arbitrary init system would nee

Re: [DNG] man init

2016-06-04 Thread Jaromil
On Fri, 03 Jun 2016, Joel Roth wrote: > My system is devuan/jessie, upgraded from debian. > > It's interesting that 'man init' brings up the > systemd man page. strange! I don't have that on my laptop (installed from devuan directly) but will check on other systems. curious why this occurs. wel

Re: [DNG] Init compatibility

2016-06-04 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 04/06/2016 09:34, Simon Walter a écrit : On 06/04/2016 04:27 PM, Steve Litt wrote: I always feel a lot better when I can singlehandedly fix what goes wrong with my possessions. Here here! Give this man a beer! I usually use both hands, but I do know what you mean.

Re: [DNG] SoylentNews discussion

2016-06-04 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 04/06/2016 08:16, KatolaZ a écrit : The problem is not in the way we should tell the kernel which is the process that will run as PID 1, but in managing the configuration scripts used by different init systems in a comprehensive, sustainable, and maintainable way, and in letting them possibly

Re: [DNG] Init compatibility

2016-06-04 Thread Simon Walter
On 06/04/2016 04:27 PM, Steve Litt wrote: I always feel a lot better when I can singlehandedly fix what goes wrong with my possessions. Here here! Give this man a beer! I usually use both hands, but I do know what you mean. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@

Re: [DNG] Init compatibility (was: SoylentNews discussion)

2016-06-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 03:27:16 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Now I'm going to wander into the realm of pure opinion, and please > understand, I am not, not, NOT suggesting Devuan ever officially > incorporate this... Whoops, I forgot the URL: http://ewontfix.com/14/ The author is Rich Felker, and thi

Re: [DNG] man init

2016-06-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 21:10:05 -1000 Joel Roth wrote: > My system is devuan/jessie, upgraded from debian. > > It's interesting that 'man init' brings up the > systemd man page. > I thought you were supposed to run manctl init so that the mand process could write its binary man journal which you

Re: [DNG] Init compatibility (was: SoylentNews discussion)

2016-06-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 00:42:46 +0200 Florian Zieboll wrote: > My experience with init systems is mostly limited sysV init (well, > also busybox and system d). That said, I wonder, what information any > arbitrary init system would need, that can not be delivered e.g. in a > simple XML file, package

[DNG] man init

2016-06-04 Thread Joel Roth
My system is devuan/jessie, upgraded from debian. It's interesting that 'man init' brings up the systemd man page. -- Joel Roth ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng