Re: [DNG] problem with devuan merged repositories

2016-07-11 Thread Simon Walter
On 07/12/2016 10:05 AM, Brian Nash wrote: Most of the past issues resolving devuan.org appear to be caused by ISPs. Not sure if there are "political" reasons for the failures, or if the registrar has anything to do with it. If you wait a while (maybe days), it will start working again. If you'

Re: [DNG] Just giving the devuan-sdk a try out

2016-07-11 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 07:55:59AM +1000, Ozi Traveller wrote: > Just to add my 2c here. I think detailed documentation is essential as a > reference. But prefer to start with some scenarios in a tutorial style. > The basic idea is to have "project files" which will allow anybody to spin a Devua

[DNG] OT: Lovecraft analogies to systemd

2016-07-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 10:40:50PM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > Hi Arnt! > > Am Mon, 11 Jul 2016 19:07:56 + > schrieb Arnt Karlsen : > > > > > > > I don't use Slackware because their package manager won't figure out > > > dependencies for me, causing me to need 10x the time to install

[DNG] tools for writing

2016-07-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 10:19:03PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:00:55 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > But now that you appear to write books on Linux, may I ask what > > software you use to do it? > > The only book I write about Linux is a "Learn Vim Tonight", and I don't >

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

2016-07-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 16:00:55 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 12:33:43PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > I don't use Slackware because their package manager won't figure out > > dependencies for me, causing me to need 10x the time to install some > > things (and I install a l

Re: [DNG] problem with devuan merged repositories

2016-07-11 Thread Brian Nash
Most of the past issues resolving devuan.org appear to be caused by ISPs. Not sure if there are "political" reasons for the failures, or if the registrar has anything to do with it. If you wait a while (maybe days), it will start working again. If you're in a hurry, try going somewhere else and

Re: [DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

2016-07-11 Thread Simon Walter
On 07/12/2016 06:06 AM, Jaromil wrote: Mostly for historical reasons, I'm posting here below the trace of a Kali Linux bug that has just been deleted from their tracker. Forensic distros are useful for many reasons. When minimal they can be also more reliable, I guess most people here convenes.

Re: [DNG] Can't connect to Amprolla?

2016-07-11 Thread Simon Walter
On 07/12/2016 05:20 AM, Linux O'Beardly wrote: Alright, the Amprolla host is back up. Apparently, we had a power outage and it shutdown. Obviously, being out of town, I wasn't there to power it back up. Let me know if you all have any issues. Thank you! __

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

2016-07-11 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Montag, 11. Juli 2016 schrieb emnin...@riseup.net: > 1] I remember a novel of H. P. Lovecraft where there is a monster, > which, once it'll be awaken it would engulf all the world. I believe to > remember its name was jabbawagga, but it's only a vague memory ... ;) Cthulhu :-) -- Please do

Re: [DNG] Just giving the devuan-sdk a try out

2016-07-11 Thread Ozi Traveller
Just to add my 2c here. I think detailed documentation is essential as a reference. But prefer to start with some scenarios in a tutorial style. On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Jaromil wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jul 2016, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > Detailed documentation often isn't clear, because th

Re: [DNG] Can't connect to Amprolla?

2016-07-11 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 11 Jul 2016, Linux O'Beardly wrote: >Alright, the Amprolla host is back up.  Apparently, we had a power outage >and it shutdown.  Obviously, being out of town, I wasn't there to power it >back up.  Let me know if you all have any issues. thanks O'Beardly, I guess that was als

Re: [DNG] Just giving the devuan-sdk a try out

2016-07-11 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 11 Jul 2016, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Detailed documentation often isn't clear, because the purpose can get > lost in the details. sounds like a wise advice Hendrik :^) Good to have yours and Ozi's heads up. Sentiments are aligning to have a sprint for a new release popping up in Septembe

[DNG] [Kali Linux 0003165]: Find a way to disable most services by default with systemd

2016-07-11 Thread Jaromil
Mostly for historical reasons, I'm posting here below the trace of a Kali Linux bug that has just been deleted from their tracker. Forensic distros are useful for many reasons. When minimal they can be also more reliable, I guess most people here convenes. So now I'm trying to get the Parrot OS

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

2016-07-11 Thread emninger
Hi Arnt! Am Mon, 11 Jul 2016 19:07:56 + schrieb Arnt Karlsen : > > > > I don't use Slackware because their package manager won't figure out > > dependencies for me, causing me to need 10x the time to install some > > things (and I install a lot of stuff --- did I ever mention I write > > boo

Re: [DNG] Can't connect to Amprolla?

2016-07-11 Thread Linux O'Beardly
Alright, the Amprolla host is back up. Apparently, we had a power outage and it shutdown. Obviously, being out of town, I wasn't there to power it back up. Let me know if you all have any issues. Later, Linux O'Beardly @LinuxOBeardly http://o.beard.ly linux.obear...@gmail.com On Mon, Jul 11,

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 22, Issue 30

2016-07-11 Thread emninger
Am Mon, 11 Jul 2016 19:07:56 + schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org: > [ . . . ] > did I ever mention I write books for a living? > [ . . . ] Me too ;) But, sincerely, mostly, i translate(d) ... (aside of guiding) Now, as a pensionist, i do a bit what i want :) Sincerely, as for slackware, i u

Re: [DNG] Just giving the devuan-sdk a try out

2016-07-11 Thread Ozi Traveller
Hi Jaromil Thanks for the info! Looking for to giving it a road test! Cheers Ozi On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Jaromil wrote: > hi Ozi > > yes please wait till next release, we are heavy on the rewriting ATM > also it has been moved and modularized, latest is here > > https://git.devuan.org

Re: [DNG] Just giving the devuan-sdk a try out

2016-07-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 05:59:55PM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jul 2016, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 09:16:40AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > > hi Ozi > > > > > > yes please wait till next release, we are heavy on the rewriting ATM > > > also it has been moved and modular

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

2016-07-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 12:33:43PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > I don't use Slackware because their package manager won't figure out > dependencies for me, causing me to need 10x the time to install some > things (and I install a lot of stuff --- did I ever mention I write > books for a living?).

Re: [DNG] Can't connect to Amprolla?

2016-07-11 Thread Linux O'Beardly
This is on me. I host that machine, and I currently cannot get to it. Unfortunately, I'm also out of town on work. I'm trying to get in touch with my daughter to have her check the machine. I'll update the list as soon as I get something. Thanks, Linux O'Beardly @LinuxOBeardly http://o.beard.l

[DNG] Can't connect to Amprolla?

2016-07-11 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, While doing an apt-get update on my Devuan VM, I got an error saying: = Unable to connect to amprolla.devuan.org:http = Is this a known problem? How do I update my system and add software? I'

[DNG] Which license for Devuan documentation?

2016-07-11 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, Which license does the Devuan project prefer for its documentation? Which format does the Devuan project prefer for its documentation? HTML? Plan text? PDF? Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt July 2016 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.tro

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

2016-07-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:32:04 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 12:33:43 -0400, Steve wrote in message > <20160711123343.5c936...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > > > On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 09:00:02 +0200 > > wrote: > > > > > Am Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:47:57 + > > > schrieb Joel Roth : > > >

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

2016-07-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 12:33:43 -0400, Steve wrote in message <20160711123343.5c936...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 09:00:02 +0200 > wrote: > > > Am Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:47:57 + > > schrieb Joel Roth : > > > > > What's your experience with slackware and its > > > dependency/packag

[DNG] linux-libre-4.6.2 with grsecurity in jessie

2016-07-11 Thread aitor_czr
Hi all, I'm trying to include linux-libre-4.6.2 in the beta of gnuinos jessie. It builds succesfully, but it doen't work in *live* mode. I get something like that: [...] Modprobe: ehci-orion module not found in modules.dep [...] I added the following lines to the config file: CONFIG_USB_COM

[DNG] Devuan discussion on SVLUG mailing list

2016-07-11 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, There's a protracted, and naturally hot, Devuan discussion on the mailing list of Silicon Valley Linux User Group. See the thread startig here: http://lists.svlug.org/archives/svlug/2016-July/062070.html Hope you enjoy it. SteveT Steve Litt July 2016 featured book: Troubleshooting Tec

Re: [DNG] Ariane-5 explosion

2016-07-11 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Didier Kryn writes: > Le 08/07/2016 15:25, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : >> The internal SRI software exception was caused during execution >> of a data conversion from 64-bit floating point to 16-bit signed >> integer value. The floating point number which was converted had >> a value

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

2016-07-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 09:00:02 +0200 wrote: > Am Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:47:57 + > schrieb Joel Roth : > > > What's your experience with slackware and its > > dependency/packaging system? > > Generally, i like it. It has way less dependencies compared to debian. > And in the end it's quite well

Re: [DNG] Just giving the devuan-sdk a try out

2016-07-11 Thread Jaromil
On Mon, 11 Jul 2016, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 09:16:40AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > hi Ozi > > > > yes please wait till next release, we are heavy on the rewriting ATM > > also it has been moved and modularized, latest is here > > > > https://git.devuan.org/groups/sdk > > >

Re: [DNG] Just giving the devuan-sdk a try out

2016-07-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 09:16:40AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > hi Ozi > > yes please wait till next release, we are heavy on the rewriting ATM > also it has been moved and modularized, latest is here > > https://git.devuan.org/groups/sdk > > but its not finished so I don't recommend trying it. What

Re: [DNG] problem with devuan merged repositories

2016-07-11 Thread Simon Walter
On 07/11/2016 04:51 PM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: When i do `apt-get update` i get the following error msgs: Err:12 http://de.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii InRelease Temporary failure resolving 'de.mirror.devuan.org' Err:13 http://de.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-security InRelease

[DNG] problem with devuan merged repositories

2016-07-11 Thread emninger
When i do `apt-get update` i get the following error msgs: Err:12 http://de.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii InRelease Temporary failure resolving 'de.mirror.devuan.org' Err:13 http://de.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii-security InRelease Temporary failure resolving 'de.mirror.devuan.or

Re: [DNG] Just giving the devuan-sdk a try out

2016-07-11 Thread Jaromil
hi Ozi yes please wait till next release, we are heavy on the rewriting ATM also it has been moved and modularized, latest is here https://git.devuan.org/groups/sdk but its not finished so I don't recommend trying it. ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@li

Re: [DNG] systemd==bad

2016-07-11 Thread emninger
Am Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:47:57 + schrieb Joel Roth : > What's your experience with slackware and its > dependency/packaging system? Generally, i like it. It has way less dependencies compared to debian. And in the end it's quite well manageable. Only, it's really so slow as for developping ...