Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> Which brings us around full circle to the original question -- how to
> do a cache flush!
If the process that's caching is local to you, then restart the process
or (if supported) instruct it to throw away its state). If the process
doing caching
On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 10:00:29PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> I'm running a caching resolver locally because that "always works"
> (unless blocked by the ISP which may become mandatory in the UK 'soon'
> ...), even if an out-of-the-ordinary cache flush is called for because
> of a 'recent'
On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 12:32:57AM +, KatolaZ wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> sorry for the OT. I just wanted to let you know that I have released
> the new version of setnet, that simple shell+dialog script for network
> configuration we talked about earlier this week. You can find the deb
> package her
Hi all,
sorry for the OT. I just wanted to let you know that I have released
the new version of setnet, that simple shell+dialog script for network
configuration we talked about earlier this week. You can find the deb
package here:
http://kalos.mine.nu/setnet/
Please feel free to give it a try
On 01/04/2017 07:24 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 01:10:31PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>>> I'm kind of envisioning this as part of the initial system setup, so a
>>> little more like this.
>>> Though I fully admit caffeine hasn't kicked in yet, so I may be
>>
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
> This is something that belongs to a different stage in the OS
> installation, when:
>
> 1) the user determined that a DNS server must be installed;
> 2) that it has to run as a local recursive nameserver;
> 3) that a particular implementatio
> [alessandro@wkstn03 ~]$ ll /etc/resolv.conf
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 set 28 20:24 /etc/resolv.conf ->
> /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
> [alessandro@wkstn03 ~]$ head -2 /etc/resolv.conf
> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by
> resolvconf(8)
> # DO NOT EDIT THIS FIL
Il 03/01/2017 23:47, Rick Moen ha scritto:
> Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk):
>
>> OK, I stand corrected. But it's still having to manually "fix"
>> something that wasn't (as people point out) broken for 30 years and
>> now suddenly (and without warning) is now broken.
> As with Arnt
Quoting Rainer Weikusat (rweiku...@talktalk.net):
> Steve Litt writes:
> > What's wrong with 8.8.8.8?
>
> Why would I want to send a list of all web sites I visit to an
> advertising company providing a 'free' service who wants to have this
> information because it's valuable business data?
An
Simon Hobson wrote:
> The current version of the system resolver has a hard coded fall-back - if
> you don't specify any resolvers then it will automatically use Google's
> (silently) !
> Short version - a bug was raised, DD responded that it's important to protect
> people from having no DNS
Il 04/01/2017 20:45, Rick Moen ha scritto:
> Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
>
>> "Your network stinks. What DNS servers do you want to use?
> [amazing list, ending with:]
>
>> [ ] Pick random ones
>> [ ] Pick the geographically closest ones
>> [ ] No DNS configuration now
>>
Steve Litt writes:
> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 11:06:53 +0100
> Jaromil wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2017, Jaromil wrote:
>>
>> > what a pity Debian has switched to Google's DNS by default.
>>
>> for the record and the sake of historical correctness:
>>
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cg
Quoting k...@aspodata.se (k...@aspodata.se):
> Best suggestion to date.
>
> Regards,
> /Karl Hammar
Tack så mycket. (So as not to show undue favouritism among Scandinavian
languages. ;-> )
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Rick Moen:
...
> But yet again, nobody is yet thinking to include what seems most obvious to
> me:
>
> [ ] Run Unbound as local recursive nameserver on this host.
> [ ] Run PowerDNS Recursor as local recursive nameserver on this host.
> [ ] Run BIND9 as local recursive nameserver on this host.
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
> "Your network stinks. What DNS servers do you want to use?
[amazing list, ending with:]
> [ ] Pick random ones
> [ ] Pick the geographically closest ones
> [ ] No DNS configuration now
>
> Given there is choice, why artificially limit peo
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Don't several system comopnents, such as dhcp clients, happily rewrite
> resolve.conf, wiping out anything the sysadmin may have set up.
Yes, but if you are using DHCP to configure your interfaces, there's an
implicit assumption that you want "stuff" configured by a servi
Il giorno Wed, 4 Jan 2017 15:34:20 +
KatolaZ ha scritto:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 04:18:10PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > > I am strongly convinced that we don't want to (and we should not, by
> > > any means) be responsible for DNS configuration, mainly because we
> > >
On 2017-01-04 05:26, Jaromil wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2017, Alessandro Selli wrote:
[ ] Pick random ones
[ ] Pick the geographically closest ones
[ ] Show a list of public DNS servers to choose from
[ ] No DNS configuration now
What do you think?
running this and other similar polls could be
On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 03:34:20PM +, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 04:18:10PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > > I am strongly convinced that we don't want to (and we should not, by
> > > any means) be responsible for DNS configuration, mainly because we
> > > don't
On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 04:18:10PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
[cut]
> > I am strongly convinced that we don't want to (and we should not, by
> > any means) be responsible for DNS configuration, mainly because we
> > don't want to have users complaining because they "..have set up the
> > fall
Il giorno Wed, 4 Jan 2017 12:24:40 +
KatolaZ ha scritto:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 01:10:31PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > > I'm kind of envisioning this as part of the initial system setup, so a
> > > little more like this.
> > > Though I fully admit caffeine hasn't kic
On 24/12/16 00:17, fsmithred wrote:
On 12/23/2016 05:42 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 10:56:58AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
I installed jessie-beta on a disk some time ago, and off hand it boots
and runs just fine. However I didn't migrate it to from my current Debian
Wheezy beca
On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 13:31:32 +0100
Jaromil wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Jan 2017, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> > > we did open Devuan's "community group" on Loomio to experiment
> > > with https://www.loomio.org/g/aZupNlWS
> >
> > How's the experiment been so far?
>
> still have to start the first expe
On Wed, 04 Jan 2017, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> > we did open Devuan's "community group" on Loomio to experiment with
> > https://www.loomio.org/g/aZupNlWS
>
> How's the experiment been so far?
still have to start the first experiment, I thought we could now, but
then I like too much the ASCII
On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 01:10:31PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
[cut]
> > I'm kind of envisioning this as part of the initial system setup, so a
> > little more like this.
> > Though I fully admit caffeine hasn't kicked in yet, so I may be
> > spouting more crazy than normal :).
> >
> > [*]
Il giorno Wed, 4 Jan 2017 12:26:35 +0100
Jaromil ha scritto:
>
> On Wed, 04 Jan 2017, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> >
> > [ ] Pick random ones
> > [ ] Pick the geographically closest ones
> > [ ] Show a list of public DNS servers to choose from
> > [ ] No DNS configuration now
> >
> > What do yo
Il giorno Wed, 04 Jan 2017 06:25:51 -0500
Dan Purgert ha scritto:
> Quoting Alessandro Selli :
>
> > Il giorno Wed, 04 Jan 2017 05:53:56 -0500
> > Dan Purgert ha scritto:
> >
> >> Quoting Alessandro Selli :
> >>
> >> > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 at 22:03:47 + Arnt Gulbrandsen
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
Quoting Alessandro Selli :
Il giorno Wed, 04 Jan 2017 05:53:56 -0500
Dan Purgert ha scritto:
Quoting Alessandro Selli :
> On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 at 22:03:47 + Arnt Gulbrandsen
> wrote:
>
>> Alessandro Selli writes:
>>> This still doesn't explain why they decided to force-feed Google's DNS
On Wed, 04 Jan 2017, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> [ ] Pick random ones
> [ ] Pick the geographically closest ones
> [ ] Show a list of public DNS servers to choose from
> [ ] No DNS configuration now
>
> What do you think?
running this and other similar polls could be beneficial to inform
deci
Il giorno Wed, 04 Jan 2017 05:53:56 -0500
Dan Purgert ha scritto:
> Quoting Alessandro Selli :
>
> > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 at 22:03:47 + Arnt Gulbrandsen
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Alessandro Selli writes:
> >>> This still doesn't explain why they decided to force-feed Google's DNS
> >>> server on
Quoting Alessandro Selli :
On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 at 22:03:47 + Arnt Gulbrandsen
wrote:
Alessandro Selli writes:
This still doesn't explain why they decided to force-feed Google's DNS
server on the user without prompting the poor fellow any possible choice.
"Your network sucks. Do you wa
On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 at 22:03:47 + Arnt Gulbrandsen
wrote:
> Alessandro Selli writes:
>> This still doesn't explain why they decided to force-feed Google's DNS
>> server on the user without prompting the poor fellow any possible choice.
>
> "Your network sucks. Do you want to [ ] use google o
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