Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 09:21:08 -0600 (CST), ja...@beau.org wrote in message <54290.192.168.250.61.1483629668.squir...@beau.org>: > > Il giorno Wed, 4 Jan 2017 15:11:36 -0800 > > Rick Moen ha scritto: > > >> There is obviously a happy middle ground. > > > Yes, it's called:

Re: [DNG] vdev packaging status (was eudev status)

2017-01-05 Thread Ralph Ronnquist
The devuan/debian packaging of vdev is so far only in "my" repository. But I've only fitted it out with the packaging files that differ from the "defaults", as generated by "dh_make -a". Please look at the make file "debian.mk" for specifics. I also started on a habit to build it all in a

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Rick Moen
I wrote: > I didn't think it necessary to belabour the fact that if a network > daemon, one that inherently needs open Internet access to work, is > prevented from having open Internet access, it won't work. I should hasten to add, sure, there is also the hotel wifi captive-portal annoyance.

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): [BIND9:] > I didn't like it for that same reason, but always wondered if it were > just a case of my drinking the djb kool aid. Dan's many criticisms of BIND9 and of its BIND8 predecessor (a from-scratch rewrite separating the two) were always

Re: [DNG] [OT] setnet v0.2: a shell script for network config

2017-01-05 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 10:08:52PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > Steve, that's already been fixed. The detection of interface type is > implemented using iwconfig now, and is not based on interface names > any more. That isn't going to work everywhere unfortunately. As of now, the built-in wifi adapter

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Simon Hobson
ja...@beau.org wrote: > I kind of like: > > A) Beginner > B) Experienced > C) Expert > D) NetGod Isn't this missing the point ? If the problem is working around broken DHCP and/or local resolvers, then it comes down to : A) If network configuration works and we can resolve the names we need to

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 13:47:14 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > Which of the preceding is best? I've always been partial to > > dnscache/tinydns, but installing it is a long cumbersome procedure > > giving Arch installation a run

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > Yes yes yes, I understand that now. I hadn't really thought it through > when I asked that question. > > In general though, I like the idea of public DNS as something that > *just works*. I can later switch to the DNS server suggested by my DHCP

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > I really like djbdns, but its installation is long and error prone, and > djb uses directories like /service that no distro will ever use. Dan really hates FHS. ;-> I haven't really properly investigated the three (arguably still four)

Re: [DNG] [OT] setnet v0.2: a shell script for network config

2017-01-05 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 03:26:00PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] > > Do you have it yet so it doesn't deduce the connection type > (wired/wifi) by the device name? I'd love to use it, but it refuses to > work, and before I go in and change your code to make devicenames > starting with 'e'

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Florian Zieboll
On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 15:02:09 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Which of the preceding is best? I've always been partial to > dnscache/tinydns, but installing it is a long cumbersome procedure > giving Arch installation a run for its money. I've never heard of > Unbound,

Re: [DNG] [OT] setnet v0.2: a shell script for network config

2017-01-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 5 Jan 2017 00:45:08 + KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 12:32:57AM +, KatolaZ wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > sorry for the OT. I just wanted to let you know that I have released > > the new version of setnet, that simple shell+dialog script for > >

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 15:11:36 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > > > This is something that belongs to a different stage in the OS > > installation, when: > > > > 1) the user determined that a DNS server must be installed; > > 2)

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 04 Jan 2017 22:00:29 + Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Steve Litt writes: > > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 11:06:53 +0100 > > Jaromil wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 02 Jan 2017, Jaromil wrote: > >> > >> > what a pity Debian has

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 4 Jan 2017 21:27:36 +0100 (CET) k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Rick Moen: > ... > > But yet again, nobody is yet thinking to include what seems most > > obvious to me: > > > > [ ] Run Unbound as local recursive nameserver on this host. > > [ ] Run PowerDNS Recursor as local recursive

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Hendrik Boom writes: > On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 10:00:29PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> I'm running a caching resolver locally because that "always works" >> (unless blocked by the ISP which may become mandatory in the UK 'soon' >> ...), even if an out-of-the-ordinary

Re: [DNG] apt configuration and repositories

2017-01-05 Thread Massimiliano Baldinelli
On 27/12/2016 08:39, Petr Gajdůšek wrote: Package: * Pin: release o=Debian Pin-Priority: -1 Package: * Pin: release o=Debian Backports Pin-Priority: -1 Added a Debian source to sources.list and these stanzas in a file in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ and now aptitude is dowloading also

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): I skipped down to the very bottom of your latest, and found: > It's not any silly if you are to perform an install in a corporate, > locked-down datacenter. The fact that you never had to operate in such > an environment ...which is the

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Thu, 5 Jan 2017 02:26:25 -0800 Rick Moen ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> I followed the same logic when I listed 26 alternate public DNS servers to >> choose from. I know it contradicts my own argument that the install >>

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

2017-01-05 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > I followed the same logic when I listed 26 alternate public DNS servers to > choose from. I know it contradicts my own argument that the install program > should ask the fewest possible questions. Before I follow you further down this