Re: [DNG] Life After Firefox 56

2017-02-23 Thread Rick Moen
As it turns out, Firefox-ESR is, per Mozilla documentation, _also_ not going to absolutely enforce Mozilla, Inc. signing of extensions. This matter was raised by the estimable Akkana Peck, who was a frequent speaker at our local Silicon Valley Linux User Group meetings before moving to New

Re: [DNG] Browsers

2017-02-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 07:39:56PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > > I have already implicitly replied to this question before you even > answered it (in the gtk+3 thread). > > If you don't mind minimal stuff (i.e., a browser that just browse the > WWW and downloads files on request), then surf+tabbed

Re: [DNG] Life After Firefox 56

2017-02-23 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > Lockdown/branding is not just happening to the desktop. We've known > for some time that the Firefox we've loved for over a decade is > about to suffer a similar fate. Those that like to pimp out their > browser (like me) will find this

Re: [DNG] Browsers

2017-02-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 03:47:33PM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:34:50 -0500 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > But firefox sometimes get crazy slow -- so slow I get no feedbak > > whether I've properly clicked on a menu item or icon or some > > such.

Re: [DNG] Browsers

2017-02-23 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 01:34:50PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Browsers. What a mess. > [cut] > > Are there other Devuan-packaged lightweight browsers anyone might > recommend? I may switch to chromium, but I doubt that it's > lightweight. > I have already implicitly replied to this

Re: [DNG] Browsers

2017-02-23 Thread Ron
On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:34:50 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > But firefox sometimes get crazy slow -- so slow I get no feedbak > whether I've properly clicked on a menu item or icon or some > such. I've recently discovereed that killall firfox-esr will kill it, > and when

Re: [DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

2017-02-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 05:32:36PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 04:26:46PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > On 170223-13:59+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > ... > > > default login username and password for (live media) > > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=573 > > ... >

[DNG] Browsers

2017-02-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
Browsers. What a mess. I've beed using Devuan since alpha-2. I had to stop using chrome when support wsa suddenly dropped for my platform -- 32-bit linux. This after I had increased my RAM from one to two gigibytes and recovered decent performance. I switched to firefox. FOr a while there

Re: [DNG] Life After Firefox 56

2017-02-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, Well, yes, I am disappointed that they want to give up on Thunderbird too. More below. On 24/02/17 03:01, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Lockdown/branding is not just happening to the desktop. We've known for > some time that the Firefox we've loved for over a decade is about to > suffer a

Re: [DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

2017-02-23 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 04:26:46PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > On 170223-13:59+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > ... > > default login username and password for (live media) > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=573 > ... > no replies so far. Well, it's a mailing list, not a call center :)

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-23 Thread David Hare
Didn't mean to actually suggest TDE for any default nor that the main focus should be other than getting Devuan Jessie ready. XFCE4 is fine (for now). Just pointing out, TDE has an extensive application set (including an office suit) with no need of gtk -anything (they forked qt3 for it) nor

Re: [DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

2017-02-23 Thread Jaromil
On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > Lookingup: > > https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install > > I tried again, typed in "root" for username, and "devuan" for password, > but it says: > > Login incorrect > > What could this be? if not that, then it should be 'root' with

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-23 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Wed, 22 Feb 2017 10:44:53 -0700 Gregory Nowak ha scritto: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:32:48AM +0100, Jochen Fahrner wrote: > > If you want to completely avoid Gtk, you have to go without many > > non-gnome apps like LXDE and Xfce desktop environments, Claws Mail, > >

Re: [DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

2017-02-23 Thread golinux
From the #devuan botbot logs May 2016: Hello, I just booted a fresh devuan_jessie_1.0.0-beta_armhf_raspi2 and found that I can not login (ssh / root), neither with psswd "devuan" nor with the two flrn: that's not the latest image (try "toor") as the root password otherwise, just grab the

[DNG] Life After Firefox 56

2017-02-23 Thread golinux
Lockdown/branding is not just happening to the desktop. We've known for some time that the Firefox we've loved for over a decade is about to suffer a similar fate. Those that like to pimp out their browser (like me) will find this Mozillazine thread useful.

Re: [DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

2017-02-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170223-13:59+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote: ... > default login username and password for (live media) > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=573 ... no replies so far. > > So, in my Gentoo: > > $ qemu-system-x86_64 -cpu host -display gtk -m 1024M -machine \ > type=q35,accel=kvm

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-23 Thread golinux
On 2017-02-23 00:58, Jochen Fahrner wrote: Am 23.02.2017 um 00:25 schrieb Hendrik Boom: But it *is* importnt to have a collection of at least one desktop that actually works in accordance with our commitment to freedom, and its consequent configurability. That's right. But does it have to be

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-23 Thread golinux
On 2017-02-23 03:27, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2017 schrieb Jaromil: Golinux has done an outstanding work with the looks of Devuan, starting from the website to finish with the purpy desktop, but we must admit the integration of this part is one of the main reasons we

Re: [DNG] SSL certificate on devuan.org invalid

2017-02-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170131-19:35+0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: ... > the SSL certificate for website devuan.org is invalid again and does not > match the one in TLSA record. > > Could you please fix it? > > Regards >Klaus I'm not deep into SSL, but it might be issues with devuan.org cert. Wget is complaining (

[DNG] default live Devuan username and password not easily available?

2017-02-23 Thread Miroslav Rovis
PASTING from https://dev1galaxy.org/ Registered users online: 1 Guests online: 12 which likely means I'm not be getting any replies within minutes from now... To this query: default login username and password for (live media) https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=573 And if

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-23 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Dr. Nikolaus Klepp (dr.kl...@gmx.at): > As david already pointed out, you could use TDE as default. I appreciated David saying that, and meant to reply that I do apologise for forgetting Trinity Desktop Environment (2010 fork of KDE 3.5), and, if someone here is a Wikipedian, can help

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-23 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2017 schrieb Jaromil: > Golinux has done an outstanding work with the looks of Devuan, > starting from the website to finish with the purpy desktop, but we > must admit the integration of this part is one of the main reasons we > are so late, since the Linux desktop has

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-23 Thread Jaromil
yes we are still turtles :^) but at least we are not struggling to catch up with badly designed toolkits. The reasons for our delay in releasing Devuan 1.0 Jessie stable are very different, only one of them explained below: On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Jochen Fahrner wrote: > Am 23.02.2017 um 00:25