Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-11 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > I argued against the assertion by Rick Moen that sudo constitutes "a > proxy for the root password"... I did not so state. I characterised a particular usage model of sudo as such. As for the rest, if it's not apparent to you that letting

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-11 Thread Dragan FOSS
On 04/11/2017 01:27 AM, aitor_czr wrote: As i can see, lines like: As I can see, your version needs one more patch :) *** --- /media/dragan/TRIOS/TMP/Aitor/gvfs-master-64caae2fe2bdd1aeb2d65cdcdb326f170718eb2a/debian/control +++ /media/dragan/TRIOS/TMP/Adam/gvfs-1.22.2/debian/control @@

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-11 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 12:55:37PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > OK, but you would agree that, if you find yourself in such an > "unprotected enviroment", there is not much difference between typing > the root password and typing the password of a user who can become > root by "sudo su". This is

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-11 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 at 12:55:37 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 01:34:19PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > > > One cannot avoid using at least once his own password at the start of > > the session, so this password cannot be completely secured

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-11 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 01:34:19PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: [cut] > One cannot avoid using at least once his own password at the start of the > session, so this password cannot be completely secured when operating in an > open or unprotected environment. If need arises to perform, in

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-11 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 at 07:13:36 +0100 Klaus Ethgen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Am Mo den 10. Apr 2017 um 22:09 schrieb Alessandro Selli: > > You still should use sudo, with a password - the user's own password. > > Using root password

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-11 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Tue, 11 Apr 2017 05:28:29 +0200 marc ha scritto: > > You still should use sudo, with a password - the user's own password. > > Using root password many times, every day, is bad for security (the more > > times you type it the higher the chances are it will be

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-11 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:17:46 -0700 Rick Moen ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > > > IMO, using root's password in those same cases is the worst possible > > password use case. One thing is your non-privileged user's password > >

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-11 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:31:35AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: [cut] > > Now, the priority are the manpages. You can read more here: > > https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=43 > > Recently i tried to run a devuan vanilla with vdev and a 4.x kernel, and it > didn't work (in live mode) because

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

2017-04-11 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Mo den 10. Apr 2017 um 22:09 schrieb Alessandro Selli: > You still should use sudo, with a password - the user's own password. > Using root password many times, every day, is bad for security (the more > times you type it the higher the