Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 27 May 2017 19:06:01 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > But there may well be some applications that depend on parts of ght > gnome and kde libraries, and they my well have this dysfunction. I'm > just wondering what they are. Make a process using dialog or zenity

Re: [DNG] Newbies threaten our purity :-)

2017-05-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 27 May 2017 15:58:49 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > init=/usr/bin/teco ;-> An improvement over systemd. SteveT Steve Litt May 2017 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 ___

Re: [DNG] Newbies threaten our purity :-)

2017-05-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 05:02:12PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Hendrik Boom > wrote: > > > > > bash wasn't the original shell. > > > I really did start on Version 6 Unix. I think Version 7 was out by then, > but the NYIT Graphics Lab

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread golinux
On 2017-05-27 18:06, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 02:03:49PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in > ~/.local/share/Trash ? > > I just found something like 443 gigabytes in there. I'll

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Hendrik, El 27/05/17 a las 23:03, Hendrik Boom escribió: Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in ~/.local/share/Trash ? I just found something like 443 gigabytes in there. -- hendrik Obviously, this is your trash. There's another trash for root:

Re: [DNG] Newbies threaten our purity :-)

2017-05-27 Thread zap
On 05/27/2017 08:02 PM, Bruce Perens wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Hendrik Boom > wrote: > > > bash wasn't the original shell. > > > I really did start on Version 6 Unix. I think Version 7 was out by > then, but the NYIT

Re: [DNG] Newbies threaten our purity :-)

2017-05-27 Thread Bruce Perens
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 4:16 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > bash wasn't the original shell. I really did start on Version 6 Unix. I think Version 7 was out by then, but the NYIT Graphics Lab didn't ever switch their PDP-11s to it. We did have the Ken Thompson shell. We

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > But there may well be some applications that depend on parts of ght > gnome and kde libraries, and they my well have this dysfunction. I'm > just wondering what they are. The filenames and file contents inside ~/.local/share/Trash are probably

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 02:26:14PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl): > > > Personally, I like mc for convenience when working from the > > commandline because of its splitscreen mode. > > mc (Midnight Commander) is very, very handy --

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 02:03:49PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > > > Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in > > ~/.local/share/Trash ? > > > > I just found something like 443 gigabytes in there. > > I'll bet you use something like

Re: [DNG] Newbies threaten our purity :-)

2017-05-27 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Bruce Perens (br...@perens.com): > You young whipper snapper! Bash is for Stallmanite commies! The True > Experienced Unix System Admin compiles the original Bourne shell from > Bourne's original Algol-like macros, rather than the travesty of C (the > Bournegol documentation is at

[DNG] Newbies threaten our purity :-)

2017-05-27 Thread Bruce Perens
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > I wrote: > > > Personally, I find that bash makes a fabulous file manager, along with > > its friends find, awk, sed, cut, etc. You young whipper snapper! Bash is for Stallmanite commies! The True Experienced Unix System

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread Rick Moen
I wrote: > (There may be some clever and elaborate way to make a directory become a > file sink for mv or cp operations _without_ accidentally overwriting it, > as someone upthread thought could be done by symlinking to > /dev/null, but I'm not thinking of it offhand.) There's this, which made

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): > Some of that DE crap (forgot which) will instead throw an error and refuse > to delete the file. Which is bad if an otherwise good, say, image viewer, > uses that Trash nonsense. Recompile it to not do that? ;-> (There may be some clever and

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Renaud OLGIATI (ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org): > Or ln to /dev/null I thought about that. cp or mv to /dev/null (as opposed to the ordinary cat or redirection to /dev/null) is IMO at best a bad habit, because one day you'll thoughtlessly do it with superuser authority, thereby

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl): > Personally, I like mc for convenience when working from the > commandline because of its splitscreen mode. mc (Midnight Commander) is very, very handy -- and might be the best choice for operations where visually tagging files

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 02:11:17PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Oh, and, just in case some other program with DE disease (like k3b) > decides to move a file there when you say to delete it): > > $ chmod 000 ~/.local/share/Trash > > (If that doesn't work, get a bigger hammer and set it immutable.

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread Ron
On Sat, 27 May 2017 14:11:17 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > > Personally, I find that bash makes a fabulous file manager, along with > > its friends find, awk, sed, cut, etc. > > Oh, and, just in case some other program with DE disease (like k3b) > decides to move a file there

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl
On 27-05-17 23:03, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in ~/.local/share/Trash ? I just found something like 443 gigabytes in there. I'll bet you use something like Nautilus or other graphical 'file manager',

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread Rick Moen
I wrote: > Personally, I find that bash makes a fabulous file manager, along with > its friends find, awk, sed, cut, etc. Oh, and, just in case some other program with DE disease (like k3b) decides to move a file there when you say to delete it): $ chmod 000 ~/.local/share/Trash (If that

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread info at smallinnovations dot nl
On 27-05-17 22:49, Hendrik Boom wrote: Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in ~/.local/share/Trash ? I just found something like 443 gigabytes in there. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in > ~/.local/share/Trash ? > > I just found something like 443 gigabytes in there. I'll bet you use something like Nautilus or other graphical 'file manager', right? On those, deletion

[DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
Anyone know what subsystems put files and directories in ~/.local/share/Trash ? I just found something like 443 gigabytes in there. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] My post about runit

2017-05-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 27 May 2017 14:37:11 -0400 zap wrote: > On 05/27/2017 02:33 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > My personal opinion is rather than packaging runit, s6, Epoch and > > the like, we should document a preferred way to install them in > > Devuan. I can help. And if they ever do

Re: [DNG] My post about runit

2017-05-27 Thread zap
On 05/27/2017 02:33 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I recently answered a runit subject post, and I just want to make it > clear what I am and am not recommending. > > I'm not recommending that runit (or any other init) become Devuan's > default init. That decision must be made by people

[DNG] My post about runit

2017-05-27 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I recently answered a runit subject post, and I just want to make it clear what I am and am not recommending. I'm not recommending that runit (or any other init) become Devuan's default init. That decision must be made by people with way more brains, information, and skin in the game

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 32, Issue 46

2017-05-27 Thread aitor_czr
Steve, El 27/05/17 a las 14:00, Steve Litt escribió: Hi! Does anyone have a clue about runit? There's RC bug #861536 in Debian that's marked stretch-will-remove, and the maintainer can't currently fix it as he dared to not kowtow deep enough before Putin and is

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 stable LTS

2017-05-27 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 26/05/2017 à 17:56, Joel Roth a écrit : On Thu, 25 May 2017 20:21:26 +0200 Veteran Unix Admins wrote: Dear Init Freedom Lovers, (...) It has been a long process, but now over two years later, we proudly present Devuan Jessie 1.0.0 Stable. I consider myself fortunate

Re: [DNG] Warning: Not important, (May contain non-PC humour.)

2017-05-27 Thread lilo
Il 27/05/2017 05:17, Clarke Sideroad ha scritto: ... > https://vms.drweb.com/virus/?_is=1=15299312=en LOL > I know malware is bad, but sometimes the names are quite good and I had > to laugh and had to share. so please excuse this. (-: share share share :D cheers --lilo;