Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 09:17:46PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't prevent you from > > > installing and using OpenRC. > > > > > > > depends, for me I cannot install openrc without losing literately one > > hundred or more packages! > > > >

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 03:02:01AM +0200, Dragan FOSS wrote: > On 17.06.2017. 02:39, Bruce Perens wrote: > >I don't see any problem with a generic interface to the things that > >libsystemd does , if one could be arrived at, or if the current API is > >sufficiently generic. > > > I don't see any

Re: [DNG] package listing

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 06:46:28PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: [cut] > > I'm often iterested in the packages that are in the repos I have *not* > specified > in sources.list > I told already that we are working at a web interface similar to packages.debian.org. Keeping asking doesn't help

Re: [DNG] Xfce4 task uninstalled on upgrade to ascii

On 17 June 2017 at 02:15, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 01:54:53AM +1000, Tom wrote: > > [cut] > > Hi Tom, > > apt-get is telling you what is the problem (there are several packages > which were automatically installed and are no longer required, mostly > due to

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de): > Anyways I am using devuan ascii and for some reason such an error does > exist. I don't know why though... I want openrc though instead and it > doesn't seem to let me install it without wiping most of my software off. Might help:

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 08:55:44PM -0400, zap wrote: > > > On 06/16/2017 05:22 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > > Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de): > > > >> how does one remove that package without removing anything else? > >> > >> I mean how do you remove it from being depended on by nearly every bit >

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

whoops may have sent this directly Anyways I am using devuan ascii and for some reason such an error does exist. I don't know why though... I want openrc though instead and it doesn't seem to let me install it without wiping most of my software off. On 06/16/2017 09:02 PM, Dragan FOSS

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On 17.06.2017. 02:39, Bruce Perens wrote: I don't see any problem with a generic interface to the things that libsystemd does , if one could be arrived at, or if the current API is sufficiently generic. I don't see any purpose that *any* package has a libsystemd dependency in distribution

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On 06/16/2017 05:22 PM, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de): > >> how does one remove that package without removing anything else? >> >> I mean how do you remove it from being depended on by nearly every bit >> of software... >> >> I want to install openrc so that is why I

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

I don't see any problem with a generic interface to the things that libsystemd does , if one could be arrived at, or if the current API is sufficiently generic. On Fri, Jun 16, 2017, 17:34 Dragan FOSS wrote: > On 17.06.2017. 00:53, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > libsystemd0

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 23:53 +0200, Dragan FOSS wrote: > On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote: > > > The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't prevent you > > from > > installing and using OpenRC. > > > The presence of libsystemd0 means that devuan is not able to > function  >

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 10:57:52PM +, Bruce Perens wrote: > But it has the name libsystemd0! It should be called The Init Library That > Must Not Be Named. :-) I think that one fails the syntax test on package names. I don't think spaces are allowed. In any case, libsystemd0 is not an

Re: [DNG] package listing

On 17.06.2017. 00:46, Hendrik Boom wrote: I'm often iterested in the packages that are in the repos I have *not* specified in sources.list Maybe rmadison (devscripts) would help you? For example: - [dragan@trios-eudev][~/Desktop]$ rmadison -u ubuntu -a amd64 libsystemd0 libsystemd0

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

But it has the name libsystemd0! It should be called The Init Library That Must Not Be Named. :-) On Fri, Jun 16, 2017, 15:53 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:53:13PM +0200, Dragan FOSS wrote: > > On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote: > > > > >The

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:53:13PM +0200, Dragan FOSS wrote: > On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote: > > >The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't prevent you from > >installing and using OpenRC. > > > The presence of libsystemd0 means that devuan is not able to function > without

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On 2017-06-16 17:29, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: On 16-06-17 23:53, Dragan FOSS wrote: On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote: The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't prevent you from installing and using OpenRC. The presence of libsystemd0 means that devuan is not

Re: [DNG] package listing

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 05:27:30PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 01:55:57AM +1000, Tom wrote: > > Interesting. Do you know how often it gets updated? Is it on an automatic > > schedule? > > > > The list of all available packages in the repos you have in >

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Actually, I would be quite happy to have systemd on my Devuan system, as long as it wasn't acting as the init. Think of it as a virtual paperweight. On Fri, Jun 16, 2017, 14:53 Dragan FOSS wrote: > On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote: > > > The presence of libsystemd0,

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On 16-06-17 23:53, Dragan FOSS wrote: On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote: The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't prevent you from installing and using OpenRC. The presence of libsystemd0 means that devuan is not able to function without systemd. Dragan

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On 16.06.2017. 23:22, Rick Moen wrote: The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying, doesn't prevent you from installing and using OpenRC. The presence of libsystemd0 means that devuan is not able to function without systemd. Dragan ___ Dng

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de): > how does one remove that package without removing anything else? > > I mean how do you remove it from being depended on by nearly every bit > of software... > > I want to install openrc so that is why I ask... The presence of libsystemd0, albeit annoying,

[DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

how does one remove that package without removing anything else? I mean how do you remove it from being depended on by nearly every bit of software... I want to install openrc so that is why I ask... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

[DNG] Git housekeeping

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Re: [DNG] package listing

On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 01:55:57AM +1000, Tom wrote: > Interesting. Do you know how often it gets updated? Is it on an automatic > schedule? > The list of all available packages in the repos you have in /etc/apt/sources.list can be found in /var/lib/apt/lists. To visualise that list (without

Re: [DNG] Xfce4 task uninstalled on upgrade to ascii

On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 01:54:53AM +1000, Tom wrote: [cut] > > I'm guessing you could be right on that. Not entirely sure how I would > check that. I'm not sure if any of the below packages are required for xfce > to operate correctly or not. I could probably just take a punt and remove >

Re: [DNG] Xfce4 task uninstalled on upgrade to ascii

On 16 June 2017 at 17:22, KatolaZ wrote: > > Which are those packages set for removal? Are packages marked as > "unnecessary" because where automatically installed by previous > versions of other packages and are not required any more? > I'm guessing you could be right on

[DNG] package listing

Tom was asking about versions of packages, and I think some others. ' I use the list that was provided to distrowatch.com !! It can be downloaded as a text file and then 'searched' in your editor. ' I wouldn't be surprised if the ASCII list was outdated - and that may be what Tom is looking for. '

Re: [DNG] curl: (1) Protocol "http" not supported or disabled in libcurl

Hi there, On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Taiidan@ wrote: When trying to run apt-get update with https I receive this error curl: (1) Protocol "http" not supported or disabled in libcurl https://curl.haxx.se/docs/faq.html#Protocol_xxx_not_supported_or_di Is there some compelling reason to want

Re: [DNG] Xfce4 task uninstalled on upgrade to ascii

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:18:21AM +1000, Tom wrote: > > I did the upgrade to Ascii yesterday before I sent the email after reading > about the dbus > package updates, so yes the dist-upgrade works but ends up with the large > number of > packages set for removal. Apologies for not mentioning

[DNG] Error after upgrade debian wheezy to devuan jessie...

Hi, upgraded two file server last week from debian wheezy to devuan jessie. Nearly everthing worked smooth on upgrading. Something is wrong with 'libc-bin'. On each operation with apt-get I'm getting following error: The following packages will be upgraded: libgcrypt20 1 packages upgraded, 0