Re: [DNG] Asterisk GUI that doesn't depend on SystemD

2017-07-30 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 07/30/2017 05:33 PM, etech3 wrote: On 07/30/2017 05:12 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: I have attempted to install various asterisk gui's only to find out that they all depend on systemd for some arbitrary reason like systemd-uuid. Does anyone know of one that doesn't need it? (for phones I

[DNG] Asterisk GUI that doesn't depend on SystemD

2017-07-30 Thread taii...@gmx.com
I have attempted to install various asterisk gui's only to find out that they all depend on systemd for some arbitrary reason like systemd-uuid. Does anyone know of one that doesn't need it? (for phones I want "it just works" - a gui) ___ Dng mailing

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 08:46:46 +0200, Edward wrote in message : > Quote from golinux's last reply: "You assume that a teacher is > necessary. But anyone who wants to learn WILL learn if they are > motivated. There are geeks who

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 01:08:59 -0400 Christopher Clements wrote: > It also helps to find some kind, patient soul on IRC who can answer > any questions you have about said manuals or tell you how to avoid > embarrasing yourself by posting something stupid on a mailing list. >

Re: [DNG] Systemd wins top gong for 'lamest vendor' in Pwnie security awards

2017-07-30 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > Ah, this made my afternoon :-) > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/28/black_hat_pwnie_awards/ After reading the attitude of the Poetter-man to CVEs, one appreciates the constructive and helpful attitude of, say, Wietse Venema even more

[DNG] Systemd wins top gong for 'lamest vendor' in Pwnie security awards

2017-07-30 Thread Simon Hobson
Ah, this made my afternoon :-) https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/28/black_hat_pwnie_awards/ > And finally, the lamest vendor response award went to Systemd supremo Lennart > Poettering for his controversial, and perhaps questionable, handling of the > following bugs in everyone's favorite

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-30 Thread Simon Hobson
Edward Bartolo wrote: > Certificates and I also dare say, EXPENSIVE colleges and universities > matter a lot. Certificates yes, college/university yes, expensive much less so (varies by location). For college/university, what matters more is it's standing in the relevant

Re: [DNG] MikeeUSA warning (Re: Yes you have standing to sue GRSecurity.)

2017-07-30 Thread nisus
First of all, give some proof of your accusation. Second of all, prove the relevance of such. Third of all: identity politics is off-topic in a discussion on copyright. Is it not you, thus, who is trolling and attempting to derail the conversation? On 2017-07-29 16:52, Adam Borowski

Re: [DNG] Teaching IT & programming

2017-07-30 Thread Edward Bartolo
Quote from golinux's last reply: "You assume that a teacher is necessary. But anyone who wants to learn WILL learn if they are motivated. There are geeks who have even skipped college and made a go of it. If you're in the 'system', the quality of teachers is always a crapshoot these days and

Re: [DNG] Identity of OP (Software written by contractors and the 'work for hire') concept

2017-07-30 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Christopher Clements (bcn...@gmail.com): > Sorry, just asking a question. I have a habit of wording things > negatively. No worries. No offence taken. (Seriously.) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Identity of OP (Software written by contractors and the 'work for hire') concept

2017-07-30 Thread Christopher Clements
On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 10:54:21PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Christopher Clements (bcn...@gmail.com): [...] (The person being a non-attorney dishonestly claiming to be one can be inferred from this conduct being against professional ethics. I'm not going to get into the details of why.