Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):
> Well, I think we've got a comprehensive review of the strategies
> used to remind the user s?he's acting as root, and they all rely on
> colour.
The '#' character is a colour? ;->
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Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de):
>
> On 09/23/2017 10:35 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> > Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de):
> >
> >> Also, palemoon has restrictions on its software which waterfox does not.
> >> I believe its on its binaries or executables? I think?
> > I've just looked and found no evi
On 09/23/2017 10:35 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de):
>
>> Also, palemoon has restrictions on its software which waterfox does not.
>> I believe its on its binaries or executables? I think?
> I've just looked and found no evidence of this.
>
https://www.palemoon.org/redist
Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de):
> Also, palemoon has restrictions on its software which waterfox does not.
> I believe its on its binaries or executables? I think?
I've just looked and found no evidence of this.
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On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 09:45:04PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Means you must have one terminal profile for every location you ssh to.
> And you forbid yourself to use su or ssh from the command line, because this
> doesn't change the color scheme of the terminal.
~/.bashrc gets re-run on su,
> Anybody got a quick tips page somewhere to find the exact color codes? Else
> I'm
> out of the discussion for now. Too much effort... (and other work awaiting me,
> I'm not lazy, but resources of mind energy not limitless, this has started
> feeling like mind building exercize --compared to body
> On Sep 23, 2017, at 4:52 AM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 23:35:37 -0700
> Rick Moen wrote:
>
>> What a pity there isn't a visual indicator that you are weilding root
>> authority like, I don't know, maybe the bash shell prompt ending
>> character changing from "$"
Le 23/09/2017 à 22:26, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit :
Changing PS1 in the relevant .bashrc changes colours both in XFCE-console and
in tty
Yes. But this isn't what Steve does. He changes the colour profile
of the xterm, depending of what command he wants to run.
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Le 23/09/2017 à 21:56, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:45:04 +0200
Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 23/09/2017 à 20:20, Steve Litt a écrit :
What a pity there isn't a visual indicator that you are weilding
root authority like, I don't know, maybe the bash shell prompt
ending character changi
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:45:04 +0200
Didier Kryn wrote:
> And you forbid yourself to use su or ssh from the command line,
> because this doesn't change the color scheme of the terminal.
? ? ? ?
Changing PS1 in the relevant .bashrc changes colours both in XFCE-console and
in tty
Cheers,
Ron
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:45:04 +0200
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 23/09/2017 à 20:20, Steve Litt a écrit :
> >> What a pity there isn't a visual indicator that you are weilding
> >> root authority like, I don't know, maybe the bash shell prompt
> >> ending character changing from "$" to "#".
> > That'
Le 23/09/2017 à 20:20, Steve Litt a écrit :
What a pity there isn't a visual indicator that you are weilding root
authority like, I don't know, maybe the bash shell prompt ending
character changing from "$" to "#".
That's not enough for me. When I open a terminal intended to be either
root or on
Le 23/09/2017 à 19:58, Miroslav Rovis a écrit :
(as further above) only if targetpw is also set...
Think I've got it now :-)
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> (
> And also, let's see if Enrico Weigelt's Librezilla takes off... Or, somebody
> proove that Waterfox is indeed safer and more honest than Palemoon... More
> people's testimonies on the latter would be needed, for me, to reconsider
> Waterfox.
> )
Well, let's see where do I start, about:config
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 23:35:37 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
>
> > The problem with su is that you may forget you are superuser and
> > start doing dangerous things,
> >
> > That's it.
>
> What a pity there isn't a visual indicator that you are weildin
On 170923-19:39+0200, Antoine wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 03:12:23PM +, Miroslav Rovis wrote:
> > (...)
> >
> > Anybody got a quick tips page somewhere to find the exact color codes? Else
> > I'm
> > out of the discussion for now. Too much effort... (and other work awaiting
> > me,
> >
Also a reply by Renaud, further in bottom (with the color codes! :-) )
On 170923-18:50+0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 23/09/2017 à 16:54, Miroslav Rovis a écrit :
The targetpw, three lines below is key to understanding my query that I posted
regarding the ability to forget the root password when i
On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 03:12:23PM +, Miroslav Rovis wrote:
> (...)
>
> Anybody got a quick tips page somewhere to find the exact color codes? Else
> I'm
> out of the discussion for now. Too much effort... (and other work awaiting me,
> I'm not lazy, but resources of mind energy not limitless
On 170920-21:21+0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 11:47:05AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> > Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl):
...
> > > You don't want that pile of spyware, it lacks any basic privacy extensions
> > > Firefox has.
+1
> > At _least_ try Chromium before ad
Le 23/09/2017 à 17:12, Miroslav Rovis a écrit :
But I'll need to take a deep breath to figure out the nice Bash lines
that you sent to the list. :-)
I didn't invent this totally; i picked it from some default Debian
.bashrc years ago. I bet you can still find at least part of it in the
de
Le 23/09/2017 à 16:54, Miroslav Rovis a écrit :
(Also replying to Didier Kryn, because it is related to my question put
following Edward email below, however, too much Edward's text missing in
Didier's reply.)
On 170923-09:15+0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Quote: "He's actually right: the least th
Also thanks for the quick replies, one from Renaud, in other emails.
But... (see below)...
On 170923-16:24+0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 23/09/2017 à 15:50, Miroslav Rovis a écrit :
> > On 170923-19:01+1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> > > On 23.09.17 10:15, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > > > ..I still m
(Also replying to Didier Kryn, because it is related to my question put
following Edward email below, however, too much Edward's text missing in
Didier's reply.)
On 170923-09:15+0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Quote: "He's actually right: the least the superuser's password is
> used, the better
> an
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 07:59:31 -0400
fsmithred wrote:
> > My camera, cell phone and USB pendrives that used to mount without trouble
> > under Debian now give an error "Not authorized" and I have to launch a
> > Pcmanfm as root to access them. Lucky I learned this morning how to launch
> > a pro
Le 23/09/2017 à 15:50, Miroslav Rovis a écrit :
On 170923-19:01+1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
On 23.09.17 10:15, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
..I still miss and prefer the S.u.S.E.-5.2 way, root had a
nice red background color in xterms, fairly hard to miss.
If the '#' and "root@hostname" escape the a
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 13:50:31 +
Miroslav Rovis wrote:
> Useful. But in which file do you stick it, you didn't say? ~/.bashrc ?
I stick the root ones in the relevant /root/.bashrc, and in ~/.bashrc for the
user.
Cheers,
Ron.
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On 170923-19:01+1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> On 23.09.17 10:15, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > ..I still miss and prefer the S.u.S.E.-5.2 way, root had a
> > nice red background color in xterms, fairly hard to miss.
>
> If the '#' and "root@hostname" escape the attention of a person
> entrusted with
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 06:28:30 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> > If the '#' and "root@hostname" escape the attention of a person
> > entrusted with root privileges, then why not make the root prompt bright
> > red:
> >
> > root@ratatosk:/home/erik# export PS1="\[\033[1;31m\]\u@\h:\W\$
> > \[\033[0;0m\]
Quoting Erik Christiansen (dva...@internode.on.net):
> If the '#' and "root@hostname" escape the attention of a person
> entrusted with root privileges, then why not make the root prompt bright red:
>
> root@ratatosk:/home/erik# export PS1="\[\033[1;31m\]\u@\h:\W\$ \[\033[0;0m\]"
It's a very goo
On 09/21/2017 05:21 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> My camera, cell phone and USB pendrives that used to mount without trouble
> under Debian now give an error "Not authorized" and I have to launch a
> Pcmanfm as root to access them. Lucky I learned this morning how to launch a
> prog as root
On 23.09.17 08:51, Miroslav Rovis wrote:
> I have very little doubt Intel put backdoors in Udoo. Why else would Udoo go
> back on the promise of Open Hardware, and go dirt cheap in comparison to
> competitors?
My Udoo X86 makes a very nice video streamer and snappy browser host.
Let the Rooshians
Le 23/09/2017 à 08:49, Alessandro Selli a écrit :
He's actually right: the least the superuser's password is used, the better
and the safer.
Yep, you can invoke 'sudo su -l'; that's su without the root
password. It helps you forget the root password.
Didier
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Le 23/09/2017 à 01:56, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
he problem with su is that you may forget you are superuser and start
doing dangerous things,
Edit the .bashrc of root to have the prompt written in red. That's
what I always do. Yet it is still dangerous.
You can make exactly the same da
Le 22/09/2017 à 18:51, Hector Gonzalez a écrit :
On 09/22/2017 05:10 AM, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 22/09/2017 à 01:32, Arnt Karlsen a écrit :
You can probably justify 'xhost +' if this is one of those
I'm-the-only-user machines. Thank Ghu, remote network access to the X
server is no longer enabl
On 23.09.17 10:15, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> ..I still miss and prefer the S.u.S.E.-5.2 way, root had a
> nice red background color in xterms, fairly hard to miss.
If the '#' and "root@hostname" escape the attention of a person
entrusted with root privileges, then why not make the root prompt bright
On 170922-16:13+0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
> On 22.09.2017 08:24, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> > Quote: "if you build your own boards"
> >
> > You mean design my own computer motherboards?!
>
> Yes. Daily job in embedded world.
>
> And there're also lots of suitable standard boards
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 23:35:37 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> What a pity there isn't a visual indicator that you are weilding root
> authority like, I don't know, maybe the bash shell prompt ending
> character changing from "$" to "#".
>
> It could work. Somebody should try it, some time.
I run xfce-
Le 22/09/2017 à 13:30, Arnt Karlsen a écrit :
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:03:07 +0200, Arnt wrote in message
<20170922130307.25f57...@nb6.lan>:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:44:47 -0700, Rick wrote in message
<20170921234447.gp11...@linuxmafia.com>:
Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no):
..my prefecen
Le 22/09/2017 à 12:31, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit :
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:19:51 +0200
Didier Kryn wrote:
However, for at least a decade, the launcher of Synaptic, in
Debian, has been invoking gksu. Certainly some other sysadmin commands
were using it also, but synaptic is the one I mo
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>> What a pity there isn't a visual indicator that you are weilding root
>> authority like, I don't know, maybe the bash shell prompt ending
>> character changing from "$" to "#".
>>
>> It could work. Somebody should try it, some time.
:D
> ..I still miss and prefer the S.
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 23:35:37 -0700, Rick wrote in message
<20170923063536.gx11...@linuxmafia.com>:
> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
>
> > The problem with su is that you may forget you are superuser and
> > start doing dangerous things,
> >
> > That's it.
>
> What a pity there
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 at 12:18:54 -0400
"Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:33:23 +0100
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
>> you probably just need to `xhost +` from the "regular" user account
>> before su-ing. By default the current display is not accessible by any
>> user except the one who
Quote: "He's actually right: the least the superuser's password is
used, the better
and the safer."
Granted, but sudo as configured in Ubuntu makes the use of a superuser
password pointless. Sudo is configured to be a wide wide open door
leading to any part of a computer's 'household'. In other wo
il devuanizzato Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI il
21/09/17 alle ore 23:21 ha scritto:
> My camera, cell phone and USB pendrives that used to mount without trouble
> under Debian now give an error "Not authorized" and I have to launch a
> Pcmanfm as root to access them. Lucky I learned this morning how to
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