Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > Whom shouldn't do that, the distro developer or the distro's admin? The various people in charge of a distribution acting in a suitable collaborative fashion, or other responsible parties acting as decided and arranged by said distro. The

Re: [DNG] Switching to OpenRC

2018-05-18 Thread Alessandro Selli
Sorry for breaking the thread, but I no longer have the original post to reply to. Author: Steve Litt Date: 2018-05-15 16:55 +200 To: dng Subject: Re: [DNG] Switching to OpenRC > On Tue, 15 May 2018 23:39:24 +1000 > Tom wrote: > >> Thanks as always for your insightful information Steve. Much >

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 18 May 2018 at 15:30:27 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> Adam Borowski's point is that if you have a single person >> administering the distro's infrastructure it does not matter if the >> infrastructure is an autonomous one or if it's h

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > Adam Borowski's point is that if you have a single person > administering the distro's infrastructure it does not matter if the > infrastructure is an autonomous one or if it's hosted on GitHub: So, Don't Do That, Then. {headdesk} I really

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 18 May 2018 at 13:18:25 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): > > [the likes of GitLab:] > >> This wouldn't have helped. A piece of infrastructure that's run by a >> person who gets run over the bus, or throws a tantrum, is inaccessible >> just the same as

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): [the likes of GitLab:] > This wouldn't have helped. A piece of infrastructure that's run by a person > who gets run over the bus, or throws a tantrum, is inaccessible just the > same as when hosted on GitHub. > > You need redundancy. I'm puzzled: W

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:18:24AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > > > I got a pm reply from Gottox, who said that their main problem at the > > moment seems to be re-acquiring access to the github account that > > contains all the packages. > > Maybe, the fir

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > I know it might seem a silly comment, but building and maintaining an > independent development infrastructure actually requires a > considerable amount of energy and time (and money). So I am not > surprised if a distro might decide to cut on the infra an

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:18:24AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: [cut] > > There are fully reasonable self-hosted, open source GitHub workalikes, > such as GitLab. Maybe VoidLinux should be setting one up and developing > its own VCS and packaging architecture. > I know it might seem a silly commen

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > I got a pm reply from Gottox, who said that their main problem at the > moment seems to be re-acquiring access to the github account that > contains all the packages. Maybe, the first step should be to learn the lesson 'Don't outsource your development a

Re: [DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 12:17:58PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:16:50 +0100 > KatolaZ wrote: > > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/16/contributing_to_keep_small_linux_alive/ > > > > Very interesting piece on the importance of contributing to keep alive > > your favouri

[DNG] Is Void OK? Was: Keep it alive

2018-05-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 17 May 2018 11:16:50 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/16/contributing_to_keep_small_linux_alive/ > > Very interesting piece on the importance of contributing to keep alive > your favourite distro. Well, Devuan is mentioned in the article among > the "larger" d

Re: [DNG] installer on serial console / qemu

2018-05-18 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:49:33AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 05/17/2018 10:15 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > On 17/05/2018 at 10:05, Lars Noodén wrote: > >> On 05/17/2018 10:37 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: > >>> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 05:32:06AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > Typo aside, would

Re: [DNG] installer on serial console / qemu

2018-05-18 Thread Lars Noodén
On 05/17/2018 10:15 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 17/05/2018 at 10:05, Lars Noodén wrote: >> On 05/17/2018 10:37 AM, Adam Borowski wrote: >>> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 05:32:06AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: Typo aside, wouldn't that need to point to the serial console instead and add, spee