Re: [DNG] dig vs nslookup: was Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-16 Thread wirelessduck
> On 17 Oct 2018, at 15:58, Steve Litt wrote: > > What's your opinion of nslookup as an alternative to dig? Not sure, but > I think you need to install bind to get dig, and not everyone wants to > install bind. Since looking at Unbound and NSD, I’ve been trying out drill as an alternative dev

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-16 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > I just got thru updating my unbound doc at > http://troubleshooters.com/linux/unbound_nsd/unbound.htm , and added a > new glossary. This is very necessary because there are so many > contradictory terms for things over the Internet. I'm not saying

Re: [DNG] dig vs nslookup: was Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-16 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > What's your opinion of nslookup as an alternative to dig? Not sure, but > I think you need to install bind to get dig, and not everyone wants to > install bind. 1. No, dig isn't bundled with BIND9 _in Linux distros_ (or in other *ixes), all of wh

Re: [DNG] who is working for who (was Avahi (was Weird network issue))

2018-10-16 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 10/16/18 10:37 PM, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Simon Hobson (si...@thehobsons.co.uk): IMO you've demonstrated why such things as DNS-SD and mDNS are a good idea. They might be a good idea, but not on my networks. (I continually find myself making the point on Dng that the quest for universal

Re: [DNG] who is working for who (was Avahi (was Weird network issue))

2018-10-16 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Simon Hobson (si...@thehobsons.co.uk): > IMO you've demonstrated why such things as DNS-SD and mDNS are a good idea. They might be a good idea, but not on my networks. (I continually find myself making the point on Dng that the quest for universal solutions may be noble in its aims but w

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 10:46:29 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 16/10/2018 à 07:10, Rick Moen a écrit : > > Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > > > >> With help from my Devuan friends the connection times have improved > >> significantly. After little poking around and a very interesting

[DNG] That part SOLVED. Re: No audio on speakers [Was: Re: Audio woes in Ascii - speakers but no headphones

2018-10-16 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 16.10.18 17:51, Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 12.10.18 00:00, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >   I'd go for the sledgehammer: > > > > apt-get -y purge pulseaudio > > Sounds good to me. What would one substitute, to provide sound instead? > > "No sound" has today hit me too, after bringing my Devua

Re: [DNG] dig vs nslookup: was Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-16 Thread Ralph Ronnquist
For ASCII, both dig and nslookup belong to the dnsutils package, which also offers nsupdate (which seems like some other useful dns utility :) and nothing else. Ralph. Steve Litt wrote on 17/10/18 15:58: > On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 23:52:34 -0700 > Rick Moen wrote: > > Rick's first word of the follow

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 02:30:09 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > wicd finds a connection automatically. I think it uses DHCP. All > these years I have managed to avoid the fine points of networking > because it's always "just worked". > > Anyway, /etc/resolv.conf is one of the primary configuratio

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 09:13:12 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: >     Hi Golinux. > >     Did you try to list your favorite sites in /etc/hosts ? This is > a primitive and oldfashioned, but very simple, way to see if you hit > a DNS issue or are routed to a slow lane. > >     Didier Nice! SteveT

[DNG] dig vs nslookup: was Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 23:52:34 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: Rick's first word of the following paragraph refers to the dig program... > It's the most versatile and reliable tool around for testing DNS > functionality -- which in turn is useful to be able to test separately > from the separate task of ac

[DNG] Case studies of high-traffic web sites running Devuan?

2018-10-16 Thread Lars Noodén
Are there any case studies about large, high-traffic web sites running Devuan? For my part I understand that it is just Debian without the nasty bits. However, some are leery of change and would like at least anecdotal support that it is as reliable, or more so, than Debian. /Lars __

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-16 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 16/10/2018 à 20:28, Rick Moen a écrit : Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):     Any reading to recommend about recursive, authoritative or what else name servers ? Not trying to be perverse, but: What would you like to know? I'll give you two answers, where the first one is my effort to

Re: [DNG] who is working for who (was Avahi (was Weird network issue))

2018-10-16 Thread Simon Hobson
Rick Moen wrote: > I respect that. For the sake of community knowledge, I'll also tell you > what I do as an alternative: ... > One morning, I walked in, and Ms. Arun was very vexed, because she said that > printing was not working anywhere around the firm. Notably, she said there > had been

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-16 Thread Evilham
Am 16/10/2018 um 10:46 schrieb Didier Kryn: > >     Any reading to recommend about recursive, authoritative or what else > name servers ? IIRC it doesn't cover everything and by no means is it technical, detailed or deep, but it's way too cute not to mention it: https://howdns.works/ -- Evilham

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-16 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): >     Any reading to recommend about recursive, authoritative or > what else name servers ? Not trying to be perverse, but: What would you like to know? I'll give you two answers, where the first one is my effort to avoid seeming to promote my own writings.

Re: [DNG] Introducing myself....

2018-10-16 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 15.10.2018 14:42, g4sra wrote: welcome. > The issue as I see it is that Linux is becoming commercialised by the > likes of Red Hat and other big players (Oracle, IBM, etc, etc). ACK. That's IMHO one of the major reasons for the massive quality degradation in recent years ... just look at the

Re: [DNG] Avahi [was Weird network issue]

2018-10-16 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:29:28AM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > Somehow administering the printer is not > considered a facet of infrastructure sysadminship, it's instead like a > dirty floor: you don't wash it yourself if someone spilled their Double > Hot Chocolate mug on it, you call the ja

Re: [DNG] Introducing myself....

2018-10-16 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 01:42:04PM +0100, g4sra wrote: > > As an experienced systems administrator with strong gut instincts I can > 'bolt stuff together' that 'just works' 24x7x365. Unfortunately, I am > only a mediocre programmer, but despite that is my intention to > contribute to Devuan what l

Re: [DNG] Avahi [was Weird network issue]

2018-10-16 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 16.10.2018 11:29, Alessandro Selli wrote: >   I find it amazing how often there is no one who knows anything> technical > about the printer, and I do not mean the list of printing or> shared filesystem protocols it supports or if it can take Postscript/PDF> files directly, but not even it's IP

Re: [DNG] Avahi [was Weird network issue]

2018-10-16 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 16/10/18 at 03:31, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >>   "Go to 'Settings', 'Network' and 'Search the local network', when you >> see the icon with the printer double click on it and accept the download >> of the driver and install it if you don't have i

Re: [DNG] Avahi [was Weird network issue]

2018-10-16 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 15/10/2018 à 20:33, Rowland Penny a écrit : On Mon, 15 Oct 2018 11:12:41 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): This is fine if you always work in the same place. During my professional life, I used to travel to various labs and found it convenient to automatically fi

Re: [DNG] Avahi [was Weird network issue]

2018-10-16 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 15/10/2018 à 20:12, Rick Moen a écrit : We noticed, if the network became saturated, the stacks became unusable in this order: 1. AppleTalk (Apple) 2. NetBEUI (Microsoft) 3. IPX/SPX (Novell Netware) The fourth stack, TCP/IP, was never observed to become unusable (though of course a sev

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-16 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 16/10/2018 à 07:10, Rick Moen a écrit : Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): With help from my Devuan friends the connection times have improved significantly. After little poking around and a very interesting talk with my ISP, I decided that the ISP's DNS resolver was contributing