Re: [DNG] Systemd as tragedy

2019-02-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 08:49:34PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 01/02/19 at 11:19, KatolaZ wrote: > > [about 100 lines cut off] > > >   Jeez, that many?  My wife was right that I got to bed too late > yesterday night!  😄 > > > > Are you willing to help with enabling s6/s6-rc in Devuan? >

Re: [DNG] Systemd as tragedy

2019-02-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 14:56:45 +0300 Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > I'd like to notice that Benno just repeats systemd's propaganda. All > these theses were considered in 2014 by Jude Nelson. > > Here's the link: > http://judecnelson.blogspot.com/2014/09/systemd-biggest-fallacies.html > > And (if someo

Re: [DNG] Systemd as tragedy

2019-02-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 13:07:37 + Simon Hobson wrote: > It's clear that systemd isn't the right implementation. And it's > clear that Poettering isn't the right person to be doing it. But I'd > suggest that many of us "systemd - just say no" folks aren't > fundamentally opposed to improvements

Re: [DNG] Systemd as tragedy

2019-02-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 16:38:28 -1000 Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:19:44AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > Might interest someone: > > > > https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/ > > > > [Front] Posted Jan 28, 2019 20:05 UTC (Mon) by corbet > > > > His attempt to cast that s

Re: [DNG] Systemd as tragedy

2019-02-01 Thread Alessandro Selli
[Time references are from the video on https://judecnelson.blogspot.com/2014/09/systemd-biggest-fallacies.html ] On 31/01/19 at 12:56, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > В Чт, 31/01/2019 в 00:19 +0100, Alessandro Selli пишет: [...] > I'd like to notice that Benno just repeats systemd's propaganda.   A

Re: [DNG] Systemd as tragedy

2019-02-01 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 01/02/19 at 11:19, KatolaZ wrote: > [about 100 lines cut off]   Jeez, that many?  My wife was right that I got to bed too late yesterday night!  😄 > Are you willing to help with enabling s6/s6-rc in Devuan?   Oh my, that means I'll have to upgrade to Beowulf!  And spend lots of time tuning

Re: [DNG] bugs.devuan.org, couple of questions

2019-02-01 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 08:24:28PM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > hey all, > > couple of questions around bugs.devuan.org. > > 1) send my first mail yesterday for an existing bug in bugs.devuan.org > and spotted these differences in web interface: > > - https://bugs.devuan.org/240 > latest ema

Re: [DNG] ¿A bug in eudev CD/DVD rules?

2019-02-01 Thread Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba
Hi KatolaZ. El Fri, 1 Feb 2019 20:31:12 +0100 KatolaZ escribió: > which version of eudev are we talking about, please? eudev 3.2.2-13 i386 This was a transition from debian/wheezy -> devuan/jessie -> devuan/ascii made last june. -- Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba s...@gpoc.es

Re: [DNG] ¿A bug in eudev CD/DVD rules?

2019-02-01 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 06:30:13PM +0100, Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba wrote: > The file /lib/udev/rules.d/60-cdrom_id.rules provided > by the eudev package contains the following lines > (removed lines are marked with [...]): > Hi Gonzalo, which version of eudev are we talking about, pleas

[DNG] bugs.devuan.org, couple of questions

2019-02-01 Thread Dimitris via Dng
hey all, couple of questions around bugs.devuan.org. 1) send my first mail yesterday for an existing bug in bugs.devuan.org and spotted these differences in web interface: - https://bugs.devuan.org/240 latest emails come first, signed email info/signature included - https://bugs.devuan.org//cgi

[DNG] ¿A bug in eudev CD/DVD rules?

2019-02-01 Thread Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba
The file /lib/udev/rules.d/60-cdrom_id.rules provided by the eudev package contains the following lines (removed lines are marked with [...]): # do not edit this file, it will be overwritten on update [...] # These rules will create symlinks for the CD/DVD reader, to help old # programs which are

Re: [DNG] Systemd as tragedy

2019-02-01 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
В Чт, 31/01/2019 в 00:19 +0100, Alessandro Selli пишет: > Might interest someone: > > https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/ Thx. As this article must be interesting to people subscribed to this list, I attach a free link: https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/777595/8f021897f452e5b4/ I'd like to notice tha

Re: [DNG] Help testing new policykit in Beowulf

2019-02-01 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 1/31/19 3:53 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > Please test everything that involves higher > privileges as well, e.g., network setup, mounting/unmounting USB > stuff, etc, seen no errors so far. - can mount/umount USB drives (including luks encrypted) as regular user without any issues, - network connecti

Re: [DNG] Systemd as tragedy

2019-02-01 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 12:33:32AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 31/01/19 at 03:38, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:19:44AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > >> Might interest someone: > >> > >> https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/ > >> > >> [Front] Posted Jan 28, 2019 20:

Re: [DNG] testing beowulf

2019-02-01 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 04:29:14PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Where should I get the installer for the beowulf version that needs to > be tested now? I plan to install it on a spare partition of my hard > drive and hope the installed dual boot still recognises my existing > ascii partition.