Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread marcxdv
> The surviving Devuan core team members will take zero or > more steps to prove Devuan trustworthy and sysadmins will > each decide for themselves or with their lawyers whether > they can continue to use Devuan. Weirdly enough I trust devuan a bit more after this incident: - I now know that the

Re: [DNG] Update on the Green Hat Hackers attack

2019-04-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 09:32:51 +0300, Lars wrote in message <720e36b0-096f-879a-6a9f-ca0c2aa84...@gmail.com>: > On 4/2/19 12:26 AM, Rick Moen wrote: > > Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org): > > > >> Dear D1rs, > >> > >> we have analysed in depth the attack from the "Green Hat Hackers" > >> tha

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread hal
On 4/1/19 1:30 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > There was no attack. There was no security incident. It was an April fool. We have clarified that several times. I have apologised for that. I am very sorry for the distress caused :\ I think it's noteworthy when a person steps up and owns a mistake. Espe

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 12:27:25PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon April 1 2019 12:18:53 Antony Stone wrote: > > If this incident has made you distrust the Devuan project, you're probably > > better off using a different distro. > > Are you a sysadmin? Are you responsible for other people's data

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread Miroslav Skoric
On 4/1/19 8:05 PM, Mike Bird wrote: Anyone using Devuan in production will, like us, have frozen updates for now. This situation cannot persist long. If Devuan/VUA cannot quickly prove itself worthy of trust we too will have to rebuild our systems, and in doing so migrate away from Devuan. D

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 4/2/19 9:14 AM, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > This ancient religion that I just made up relies on goat liver for > guidance in professional decisions. I'll confer with my butcher. vegetarian-wanna-be here. my spiritual leader (=gardener) suggested i try water. indeed, i could reproduce, and

Re: [DNG] Update on the Green Hat Hackers attack

2019-04-02 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Adrian Zaugg - 01.04.19, 22:10: > I'd definitively preferred: > > Devuan embraces Systemd! > After thorough discussions in our technical committee Devuan decided > to ship systemd with its next release "Beowulf" as the standard init. > Systemd is a complete pot of terware that will enhance Devuan

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:29:46 +0300, Dimitris wrote in message : > - TZ difference is bad. we should all go GMT or something unique, and > know when april fools starts/ends. ..disagreed, good pranks can use the extra bonus time. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen .

Re: [DNG] Update on the Green Hat Hackers attack

2019-04-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 02 Apr 2019 13:38:32 +0200, Martin wrote in message <2435606.oUQQ83ams4@merkaba>: > Adrian Zaugg - 01.04.19, 22:10: > > I'd definitively preferred: > > > > Devuan embraces Systemd! > > After thorough discussions in our technical committee Devuan decided > > to ship systemd with its next

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread Rowland Penny via Dng
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:28:52 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:29:46 +0300, Dimitris wrote in message > : > > > - TZ difference is bad. we should all go GMT or something unique, > > and know when april fools starts/ends. > > ..disagreed, good pranks can use the extra bonus tim

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2019 Tue, 2 Apr 13:33:20 +0100 Rowland Penny via Dng scripsit: > On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:28:52 +0200 > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:29:46 +0300, Dimitris wrote in message > > : > > > > > - TZ difference is bad. we should all go GMT or something unique, > > > and kn

[DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-02 Thread Jaromil
dear readers, as a Devuan caretaker and co-founder, in my own personal capacity, let me state that: 1. There was no break-in on any part of Devuan's infrastructure on 1st April. This was the most skillfull prank I've witnessed in my life. 2. Devuan comes WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY. Bluntly put, if

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Apr 01, 2019 at 08:37:43PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > Apologies for the tardy response but I'm on my way to AMS atm and don't own > a mobile device to keep current. Sadly, I won't be meeting any of you in AMS next weekend. I'm rooted to Montreal for medical reasons. -- hendrik _

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-02 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue April 2 2019 07:30:58 Jaromil wrote: > 1. There was no break-in on any part of Devuan's infrastructure on 1st >April. This was the most skillfull prank I've witnessed in my life. You are easily impressed. And you double down on KatolaZ's irresponsible vandalism with a display of lazy w

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-02 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 02 April 2019 at 18:46:28, Mike Bird wrote: > On Tue April 2 2019 07:30:58 Jaromil wrote: > > There was no break-in on any part of Devuan's infrastructure on 1st > > April. This was the most skillfull prank I've witnessed in my life. > > You are easily impressed. And you double down o

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2/4/19 11:33 pm, Rowland Penny via Dng wrote: > On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:28:52 +0200 Arnt Karlsen > wrote: > >> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:29:46 +0300, Dimitris wrote in message >> : >> >>> - TZ difference is bad. we should all go GMT or something >

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-02 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue April 2 2019 10:31:11 Antony Stone wrote: > Well, as Jaromil eloquently pointed out, since you have no contract with > Devuan, and it is clearly distributed WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY (I only > capitalise because that's the way it's written in all the notices letting > you know), I don't think you

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-02 Thread Jaromil
dear Antony On Tue, 02 Apr 2019, Antony Stone wrote: > > I also fail to see how a lawyer can possibly decide whether it's "safe to > keep > a production system on Devuan". my thanks to you and many others here for having taken the time to gracefully comment on the issue and show your solidarit

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-02 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Dear Jaromil. Jaromil - 02.04.19, 16:30: > dear readers, > > as a Devuan caretaker and co-founder, in my own personal capacity, let > me state that: > > 1. There was no break-in on any part of Devuan's infrastructure on 1st > April. This was the most skillfull prank I've witnessed in my life. T

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-02 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Mike Bird - 02.04.19, 18:46: > On Tue April 2 2019 07:30:58 Jaromil wrote: > > 1. There was no break-in on any part of Devuan's infrastructure on > > 1st> > >April. This was the most skillfull prank I've witnessed in my > >life. > > You are easily impressed. And you double down on Katola

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-02 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Jaromil - 02.04.19, 20:10: > he is now in moderation. if the trolling comes back from other > accounts please don't feed. And I already thought I just overreacted. I suggest to just let the whole topic rest for a while. If there is anything remaining, I bet its much more easy to clear up with a

Re: [DNG] April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread Simon Hobson
Rick Moen wrote: > > Quoting etech3 (ete...@e-tech-systems.com): > >> My advice to you is like the Marines motto: Lead, follow or get the >> hell out of the way. > > > > That might be the motto of _some_ group of marines, but FWIW actual > service mottos are: I suspect that he wasn't meaning

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 09:46:28 -0700, Mike wrote in message <201904020946.28450.mgb-dev...@yosemite.net>: > On Tue April 2 2019 07:30:58 Jaromil wrote: > > 1. There was no break-in on any part of Devuan's infrastructure on > > 1st April. This was the most skillfull prank I've witnessed in my > > lif

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-02 Thread Evilham via Dng
Jaromil writes: he is now in moderation. if the trolling comes back from other accounts please don't feed. Thank you, I was coming to suggest that as well. The whole going-for-blood-or-else thing was getting on my nerves. People particularly concerned with security did the sensible thing as

Re: [DNG] searx

2019-04-02 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 4/2/19 9:53 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Just in case someone hits the page via > a search engine. https://search.disroot.org luckily does not seem to > catch it via a simple search for "Devuan", at least not within the first > few dozens of search results. thanks for sharing a privacy f

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-02 Thread John Morris
On Tue, 2019-04-02 at 09:21 +0200, marc...@welz.org.za wrote: > Weirdly enough I trust devuan a bit more after this incident: Yup, same here. A good prank on Apr 1 is perfectly in keeping with the finest UNIX traditions. It is the humorless scolds who should be suspected. Seeing the poo flingi