Re: [DNG] why is dist-upgrade trying to remove mate

2020-01-02 Thread Mark Hindley
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 10:45:28PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > Hi All, > I just did apt-get update followed by dist-upgrade on a Beowulf > system, and I get this: Hi, I just pushed a new verion of policykit to beowulf. It could be related to that. Do you gave elogind installed? What does

[DNG] OT: Fedora in Debian

2020-01-02 Thread golinux
Greetings all. Let's start the new year with something from the Debian forums that might make you shake your head and chuckle. Poor newbie on Windoze hasn't a clue just how funny his last para is: "The problems? The resulting bootable drive isn't booting in UEFI. It can still boot though

[DNG] why is dist-upgrade trying to remove mate

2020-01-02 Thread Gregory Nowak
Hi All, I just did apt-get update followed by dist-upgrade on a Beowulf system, and I get this: # apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... 0% Reading package lists... 100% Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... 0% Building dependency tree... 0% Building dependency

Re: [DNG] Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd'

2020-01-02 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 14:38:53 -0800 spiralofhope wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 13:46:12 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > What happens if Debian stops supporting sysvinit, or worse, installs > > Halloween Code to greatly complicate systemd replacement? > > I wasn't familiar with the term

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists (was: Can we fix this DMARC thing?)

2020-01-02 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting spiralofhope (spiralofh...@spiralofhope.com): > If an email address successfully receives a few emails but then gets > automatically unsubscribed later, could this be why? That would be a possible reason (but not on this mailing list since the implementation of DMARC migitation a bit

Re: [DNG] Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd'

2020-01-02 Thread spiralofhope
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 13:46:12 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > What happens if Debian stops supporting sysvinit, or worse, installs > Halloween Code to greatly complicate systemd replacement? I wasn't familiar with the term "Halloween Code". Is this a reference to Microsoft's internal strategy

[DNG] [OT] Louis Rossmann (was Catching up)

2020-01-02 Thread spiralofhope
On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 04:00:48 +1100 Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > Some here might be aware of Louis Rossmann I am in particular. He was a pure Linux user for the longest time, but abandoned it to great success and with no regrets. I engaged him on this topic a little after his transition

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists (was: Can we fix this DMARC thing?)

2020-01-02 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:47:49 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Ergo, often one of the places mailing > lists first notice delivery problems owing to aggressive DMARC > policies is among subscribers receiving their subscription mail on > GMail, who suddenly aren't getting some mailing list traffic, report

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-02 Thread Andreas Messer
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 02:58:10PM -0500, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > Please upgrade your highly customized and configured ascii production system > to beowulf and tell us if it works. Okay, DO THIS ON A COPY, not the real > thing. Well, already did on my production systems, not many test machines

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 02:58:10PM -0500, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > Please upgrade your highly customized and configured ascii production system > to beowulf and tell us if it works. Okay, DO THIS ON A COPY, not the real > thing. > > I've upgraded standard no-X systems, xfce and mate desktops,

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Jan 01, 2020 at 09:07:45PM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 12/31/19 9:58 PM, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > > I've upgraded standard no-X systems > > openrc, no-X, task-console-productivity, luks . > > dist-upgraded from fresh 2.1 release to beowulf. > got a segmanation fault during

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Jan 01, 2020 at 01:01:44PM +0100, r de vreede via Dng wrote: > Re:[DNG] We need upgrade reports > > On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 8:58 PM fsmithred via Dng > wrote: > > > Please upgrade your highly customized and configured ascii production > > system to beowulf and tell us if it works. Okay,