Re: [DNG] Expert Install option

2020-01-10 Thread 'smee via Dng
On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 00:11 -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2020-01-10 23:55, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > Is there a reason I don't see 'Expert Install' as an option in my > > ascii > > live installer image? I don't seem to be able to locate it > > anywhere...am I just missing it? > > > >

Re: [DNG] Expert Install option

2020-01-10 Thread golinux
On 2020-01-10 23:55, 'smee via Dng wrote: Is there a reason I don't see 'Expert Install' as an option in my ascii live installer image? I don't seem to be able to locate it anywhere...am I just missing it? Thanks The 'Expert Install' option is available in the netinst isos not the live

[DNG] Expert Install option

2020-01-10 Thread 'smee via Dng
Is there a reason I don't see 'Expert Install' as an option in my ascii live installer image? I don't seem to be able to locate it anywhere...am I just missing it? Thanks ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-10 Thread 'smee via Dng
> On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 11:25 +0100, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 16:17 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > Actually, after apt remove *nonfree (and a reboot for good > > > measure), > > > update-initramfs -u still comes back with the same exact output > > > including

Re: [DNG] Alternatives to synaptic?

2020-01-10 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Andreas Messer (a...@bastelmap.de): > Back to topic: I personally stick with apt or aptitude but since the > the family sticks more or less to GUI, I have also installed > "muon". It is Qt/KDE based and is quite similar to aptitude. I didn't like > synaptic since it performs too much

Re: [DNG] Tried Debian Stretch with systemd out of constrainsts

2020-01-10 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 10/01/2020 17:28, Andreas Messer wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 10:04:28PM +0100, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: >> [...] >> >> I still have yet not figured out how to avoid having to use snapd and >> install the firmware for the oscilloscope, Hantek 6000B (USB). I have >> successfully

Re: [DNG] Tried Debian Stretch with systemd out of constrainsts

2020-01-10 Thread Andreas Messer
On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 10:04:28PM +0100, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > [...] > > I still have yet not figured out how to avoid having to use snapd and > install the firmware for the oscilloscope, Hantek 6000B (USB). I have > successfully extracted .hex files from the MS Windows drivers but

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-10 Thread 'smee via Dng
I just ran update-initramfs -u on my ascii install (on which I also removed *nonfree yesterday) and I'm still getting the same message. IIRC, I ran the same command yesterday before ever removing anything and was seeing the same results. I can double-check that later today by installing ascii

Re: [DNG] Alternatives to synaptic?

2020-01-10 Thread Andreas Messer
On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 07:16:38PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > > # apt install libelogind0 libpam-elogind synaptic > > > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > The following additional packages will be installed: > elogind

Re: [DNG] Ascii/Beowulf nonfree firmware

2020-01-10 Thread 'smee via Dng
On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 20:35 +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Hi, > > 'smee via Dng writes: > > > Sorry to fill up everyone's inbox today with this subject, and > > again > > with this email, but I thought I'd add this last bit in relation to > > this whole thing. > > > > According to the ascii

Re: [DNG] OT: Langue naturelle (was Re: Fonts trouble on beowulf)

2020-01-10 Thread viverna
il devuanizzato Dimitris via Dng il 10-01-20 12:55:20 ha scritto: On 1/10/20 1:32 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: Why ? Everyone else seems to want to learn English ;-) Want to? I was forced to at the tender age of 12. In addition to French. +1 , and i think nowadays they start

Re: [DNG] Installer deficiency

2020-01-10 Thread golinux
On 2020-01-10 01:04, dal wrote: I can easily prepare such files from the so called "netboot" CD, but then initramfs will be over 300MB, because it would have to include the whole install CD image, to be functional, an order of magnitude more than f.i. Debian's network boot media. I have high

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-10 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 1/9/20 3:40 PM, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > Correct, I can add it and try reinstall but just trying to figure out > why firmeware-misc-nonfree and firmware-linux-nonfree are there. If the > simplest answer is just that I must have installed them myself, I can > accept that, but I don't think

Re: [DNG] Pager (was Re: Alternatives to synaptic?)

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Erik, Erik Christiansen writes: > On 10.01.20 20:18, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> # There's still no zpager, even after asking for it two decades ago :-O >> # >> # https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=49942 > > In the "less" manpage, under the "INPUT PREPROCESSOR" heading,

Re: [DNG] OT: Langue naturelle (was Re: Fonts trouble on beowulf)

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Dimitris via Dng writes: > On 1/10/20 1:32 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >>> Why ? Everyone else seems to want to learn English ;-) >> Want to? >> >> I was forced to at the tender age of 12. >> In addition to French. > > +1 , > and i think nowadays they start "wanting to learn english"

Re: [DNG] OT: Langue naturelle (was Re: Fonts trouble on beowulf)

2020-01-10 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 1/10/20 1:32 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> Why ? Everyone else seems to want to learn English ;-) > Want to? > > I was forced to at the tender age of 12. > In addition to French. +1 , and i think nowadays they start "wanting to learn english" even younger, about ~6-7 years old.

Re: [DNG] Pager (was Re: Alternatives to synaptic?)

2020-01-10 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 10.01.20 20:18, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > # There's still no zpager, even after asking for it two decades ago :-O > # > # https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=49942 In the "less" manpage, under the "INPUT PREPROCESSOR" heading, "two scripts will allow you to keep files in

Re: [DNG] Ascii/Beowulf nonfree firmware

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, 'smee via Dng writes: > Sorry to fill up everyone's inbox today with this subject, and again > with this email, but I thought I'd add this last bit in relation to > this whole thing. > > According to the ascii release notes, the nonfree firmware should be > for the wi-fi driver. Maybe later

[DNG] OT: Langue naturelle (was Re: Fonts trouble on beowulf)

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Rowland penny via Dng writes: > On 10/01/2020 07:13, Rick Moen wrote: >> Quoting Rowland penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): >> Le projet Clearlooks-Phénix a pour but de créer une version GTK3 de Clearlooks, thème par défaut de Gnome 2. Un style est également inclus pour GTK2,

Re: [DNG] Alternatives to synaptic?

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, goli...@devuan.org writes: > On Thu 09/Jan/2020 17:50:15 +0100 Mark Hindley wrote: >> >>> Alternatively, use apt or aptitude from the commandline. > > https://pkginfo.devuan.org/ might also be helpful Thanks for the pointer. I do believe Ascii is 2.1.0 now, though, not 2.0.0 as shown in

[DNG] Pager (was Re: Alternatives to synaptic?)

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Erik Christiansen writes: > On 10.01.20 11:10, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: >> On Fri 10/Jan/2020 01:35:55 +0100 Erik Christiansen wrote: >> > On 09.01.20 17:44, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: >> >> >> >> Synaptic is convenient as it allows to search for keywords, e.g. "pdf", >> >> and >>

Re: [DNG] Alternatives to synaptic?

2020-01-10 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 10.01.20 11:10, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > On Fri 10/Jan/2020 01:35:55 +0100 Erik Christiansen wrote: > > On 09.01.20 17:44, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > >> > >> Synaptic is convenient as it allows to search for keywords, e.g. "pdf", and > >> choose a package that does the task

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-10 Thread Svante Signell via Dng
On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 16:17 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > Actually, after apt remove *nonfree (and a reboot for good measure), > update-initramfs -u still comes back with the same exact output > including that last line... I think your problems are with the new (beowulf) image. It is not using

Re: [DNG] Alternatives to synaptic?

2020-01-10 Thread Alessandro Vesely via Dng
On Fri 10/Jan/2020 01:35:55 +0100 Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 09.01.20 17:44, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: >> >> Synaptic is convenient as it allows to search for keywords, e.g. "pdf", and >> choose a package that does the task at hand. Google does the same, but is >> not >> version

Re: [DNG] Fonts trouble on beowulf

2020-01-10 Thread Rowland penny via Dng
On 10/01/2020 07:13, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Rowland penny via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): Le projet Clearlooks-Phénix a pour but de créer une version GTK3 de Clearlooks, thème par défaut de Gnome 2. Un style est également inclus pour GTK2, Unity et les gestionnaires de fenêtres Metacity,