Re: [DNG] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-17 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 17/05/2020 20:26, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Sun, 17 May 13:20:13 +0100 > g4sra via Dng scripsit: >> I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but panics >> 'killing init' on Devuan. >> Has anybody else experienced this ? >> >> The only difference I can

Re: [DNG] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-17 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 17 May 13:20:13 +0100 g4sra via Dng scripsit: > I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but panics > 'killing init' on Devuan. > Has anybody else experienced this ? > > The only difference I can discern is that the Devuan repository executables >

Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 17 May 2020 13:46:28 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 16/05/2020 à 11:30, Steve Litt a écrit : > > On Fri, 15 May 2020 14:44:06 -1000 > > Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > > > > >> Reminds me to revisit https://ewontfix.com/14/ > >> for Felker's Broken by Design article on systemd. > > That

Re: [DNG] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-17 Thread tom
On Sun, 17 May 2020 13:20:13 +0100 g4sra via Dng wrote: > I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but > panics 'killing init' on Devuan. Has anybody else experienced this ? > > The only difference I can discern is that the Devuan repository > executables (init) are

Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 16 May 2020 22:04:51 +0100 tux...@sapo.pt wrote: > Hello, > > Citando Steve Litt : > > > It's such a shame. Runit and s6 were both there, waiting to be > > picked up and used. Both were 10 times easier than sysvinit. But > > n. > > All init systems that want to be taken

Re: [DNG] Device naming: was Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 16 May 2020 13:10:23 -0700 Rick Moen via Dng wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > If you're referring to the ethernet device being eno1 or > > enWhichUSB22 instead of eth0, or wxbd3 or wl21Poettering423 instead > > of wlan0, I prefer the new way. Here's why:

Re: [DNG] Device naming: was Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 16/05/2020 à 22:10, Rick Moen via Dng a écrit : Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): If you're referring to the ethernet device being eno1 or enWhichUSB22 instead of eth0, or wxbd3 or wl21Poettering423 instead of wlan0, I prefer the new way. Here's why: No, that's not what I

[DNG] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-17 Thread g4sra via Dng
I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but panics 'killing init' on Devuan. Has anybody else experienced this ? The only difference I can discern is that the Devuan repository executables (init) are compiled as PIE. Any suggestions to further the diagnosis of this issue

Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 16/05/2020 à 11:30, Steve Litt a écrit : On Fri, 15 May 2020 14:44:06 -1000 Joel Roth via Dng wrote: Reminds me to revisit https://ewontfix.com/14/ for Felker's Broken by Design article on systemd. That web page changed my life. When I saw, on that page, how simple PID1 could really be,

Re: [DNG] Check default_transport if you can't send email through Postfix

2020-05-17 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 5/16/20 11:49 PM, tux...@sapo.pt wrote: > The only thing it has in favor( we could join to that a simpler way of > configuration, no m4 needed like Sendmail), > it consumes horrendous amounts of resources.. with no explanation for > such hog resources behavior.. but it lacks a ton of features

Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 5/17/20 12:04 AM, tux...@sapo.pt wrote: > But is a major flaw, being it a init system for a operating system, and > not beign able to run shell scripts( systemd has also this limitation.. ).. you're right about s6, but wrong about systemd. you can run shell scripts with that bloated beast.

Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread dal
Hello Steve, > This enraged me: > The fact that a Troubleshooting Trainer could make an init in a couple > weeks, yet the Redhat/Freedesktop/Poettering axis was telling us what a > complex thing an init was. They have in mind their own, different from yours and mine, idea of how the computers

Re: [DNG] tobacco patch?

2020-05-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Ian Zimmerman writes: > On 2020-05-16 16:51, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> What do you mean by "tobacco patch"? > > It's an analogy with a medical device used to help smokers with quitting. I think in Europe it's better known as a nicotine patch. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] tobacco patch? (OT)

2020-05-17 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 16 May 2020 18:13:58 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2020-05-16 16:51, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > What do you mean by "tobacco patch"? > > It's an analogy with a medical device used to help smokers with > quitting. Aah. I would say "nicotine patch".

Re: [DNG] Device naming: was Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread tuxd3v
Citando Ian Zimmerman : On 2020-05-16 13:10, Rick Moen via Dng wrote: I meant multiple subtrees of device node files classified in lots of different and overlapping ways, by-uuid, and on and on. I'll take that one :-P Last year I nearly lost all my image and audio data, some 100G. I guess