Re: [DNG] Mixing different init benefits: was: without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-26 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-05-26 17:51, Didier Kryn wrote: > Did it exist prior to the creation of Systemd? I think it depends on how you count. There was a predecessor project called dmd which was created to be PID 1 on Hurd. If you count dmd then it precedes systemd, otherwise not. -- Ian __

Re: [DNG] supported ways to control user access to audio/video devices

2020-05-26 Thread dal
Thanks to some helpful off-list replies and to additional research, for a casual reader: This access control is implemented via udev and elogind which *is* systemd code and architecture. This is supposed to "just work", for some definition of "work". When it does not, you face a challenge (a syst

Re: [DNG] Mixing different init benefits: was: without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-26 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 26/05/2020 à 10:26, Steve Litt a écrit : > On Mon, 25 May 2020 10:08:17 -0700 > Ian Zimmerman wrote: > >> On 2020-05-21 14:09, Steve Litt wrote: >> >>> * Busybox init >>> * Epoch >>> * OpenRC >>> * Runit >>> * s6 (plus s6-rc) >>> * Suckess init plus [daemontools | runit | s6] >>> * systemd >>>

Re: [DNG] Mixing different init benefits: was: without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-26 Thread golinux
On 2020-05-26 03:26, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2020 10:08:17 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: On 2020-05-21 14:09, Steve Litt wrote: > * Busybox init > * Epoch > * OpenRC > * Runit > * s6 (plus s6-rc) > * Suckess init plus [daemontools | runit | s6] > * systemd > * sysvinit * GNU Shepherd ?

Re: [DNG] Mixing different init benefits: was: without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 25 May 2020 10:08:17 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2020-05-21 14:09, Steve Litt wrote: > > > * Busybox init > > * Epoch > > * OpenRC > > * Runit > > * s6 (plus s6-rc) > > * Suckess init plus [daemontools | runit | s6] > > * systemd > > * sysvinit > > * GNU Shepherd ? > > https://ww

Re: [DNG] supported ways to control user access to audio/video devices

2020-05-26 Thread dal
> From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of terryc > Sent: den 26 maj 2020 03:23 > My understanding is that it is a inherent limitation of *nix. Fortunately, for the purposes of installations here, we see some acceptable solutions, my hope was though that Devuan already implement