Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread aitor
Hi Steve, On 17/9/20 14:33, Steve Litt wrote: I was given hopman to test on my Void box and got it compiled with some help from (I think) Aitor. It was much more mature than my amounter was. I don't know why I quit using it --- maybe my mind went on to other things. My help was installing simp

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 04:48:06PM +0300, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > tito already wrote the solution for nm in this thread : Ah, this'll teach me not to read the whole thread before I reply. > so you can use local dns caching, unbound, dnsmasq, other... FWIW, I've been using BIND for this role

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 08:45:06AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 02:11:57AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > Speaking of Netowrk manager, am I the only one who hates it messing > > with /etc/resolv.conf? > > No. You are not the only one. I prefer ifupdown, but I like Net

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > I've never been afraid to kludge when it comes to packages, so my > solution was: > > chattr i /etc/resolv.conf > > :-) Without the '+', that is not a solution, just a syntax error. ;-> ___ Dng maili

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > Speaking of Netowrk manager, am I the only one who hates it messing > with /etc/resolv.conf? You know what I'd like? I'd like > /etc/resolv.conf to be a symlink to one of many files, such as > resolv.dhcp, which *could* be modified by the network m

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-09-17 20:34, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > apt install netplug wpasupplicant ifupdown I happen to dislike ifupdown almost as much as NetworkManager. It is a poorly documented opaque mess. The fact that it's a debian invention (AFAIK) and not an import from RH-land is about the only s

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 9/16/20 3:45 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> Speaking of Netowrk manager, am I the only one who hates it messing >> with /etc/resolv.conf? > No. You are not the only one. tito already wrote the solution for nm in this thread : " This feature could be disabled by adding this to the [main] section:

[DNG] mounting and automounting

2020-09-17 Thread Hendrik Boom
I have nothing new to say, but I thought it was time to change the subject line of this thread to make it more easily findable. -- hendrik On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 08:33:46AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:07:42 +0200 > Didier Kryn wrote: > > > Le 16/09/2020 à 22:30, Steve Lit

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 20:34:31 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > Hendrik Boom writes: > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 02:11:57AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > >> > >> Speaking of Netowrk manager, am I the only one who hates it messing > >> with /etc/resolv.conf? > > > > No. You are n

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:07:42 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 16/09/2020 à 22:30, Steve Litt a écrit : > > On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 09:53:14 +0200 > > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > > > >> Anno domini 2020 Wed, 16 Sep 02:11:57 -0400 > >> Steve Litt scripsit: > >>> In addition, I don't see why Unix d

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Hendrik Boom writes: > On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 02:11:57AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >> >> Speaking of Netowrk manager, am I the only one who hates it messing >> with /etc/resolv.conf? > > No. You are not the only one. Same here. apt purge network-manager solved it for me ;-) Eh, perhaps

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 16/09/2020 à 22:30, Steve Litt a écrit : > On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 09:53:14 +0200 > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > >> Anno domini 2020 Wed, 16 Sep 02:11:57 -0400 >> Steve Litt scripsit: >>> In addition, I don't see why Unix design isn't a good fit for modern >>> demands. Edward and Aitor have alrea

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 17-09-2020 09:02, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Wed, 16 Sep 22:15:42 + > aitor scripsit: >> Hi, >> >> On 16/9/20 20:30, Steve Litt wrote: >>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 09:53:14 +0200 >>> "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: >>> Anno domini 2020 Wed, 16 Sep 02:11:57 -0400 Steve

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2020 Wed, 16 Sep 22:15:42 + aitor scripsit: > Hi, > > On 16/9/20 20:30, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 09:53:14 +0200 > > "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > > > >> Anno domini 2020 Wed, 16 Sep 02:11:57 -0400 > >> Steve Litt scripsit: > >>> In addition, I don't see why Uni