Re: [DNG] Dependency of KDE on lightdm or slim

2021-04-14 Thread Dimitris via Dng
Hey, Στις 13/4/21 4:50 μ.μ., ο/η tito via Dng έγραψε: On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 15:48:03 +0200 tito via Dng wrote: is there a reason task-kde-desktop 3.53 has a dependency on lightdm or slim? I ask because I have xfce and kde installed on beowulf and use sddm to manage the display and never experien

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread Steve Litt
tito via Dng said on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 >2) should non-free and contrib repos be added to sources.list >or should that be left to the user I'm not sure whether my answer is responsive to your question or not, but here goes... I believe enough non-free and contrib stuff should b

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 09:02:54AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > tito via Dng said on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 > > > >2) should non-free and contrib repos be added to sources.list > >or should that be left to the user > > I'm not sure whether my answer is responsive to your question or n

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 4/14/21 9:50 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 09:02:54AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >> tito via Dng said on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 >> >> >>> 2) should non-free and contrib repos be added to sources.list >>>or should that be left to the user >> >> I'm not sure whether

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:50:17 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 09:02:54AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > tito via Dng said on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 > > > > > > >2) should non-free and contrib repos be added to sources.list > > >or should that be left to the user >

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:57:38 -0400 fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 4/14/21 9:50 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 09:02:54AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > >> tito via Dng said on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 > >> > >> > >>> 2) should non-free and contrib repos be added to sources.

[DNG] strange mutt pauses

2021-04-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
I have an unreliable connection between my server and the rest of the world. Yes, I'm going to have to deal with that; it's not what I'm asking about. I have a reliable wired connection from my laptop to my server. And I run mutt on my server, connecting to it by ssh. What puzzles me is that eve

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 4/14/21 10:15 AM, tito wrote: > On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:57:38 -0400 > fsmithred via Dng wrote: > >> >> It's currently opt-out. You must select Expert install to avoid >> non-free and to choose your sources. Something about how the >> installer works makes it easier to do it this way rather than

Re: [DNG] strange mutt pauses

2021-04-14 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 14-04-2021 16:19, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I have an unreliable connection between my server and the rest of the > world. > Yes, I'm going to have to deal with that; it's not what I'm asking about. > > I have a reliable wired connection from my laptop to my server. > And I run mutt on my server, c

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread g4sra via Dng
> > This might be a good one to ask the users. > > fsmithred > Agreed. But if you did want to do it programmatically without parsing every sources.{d/*,conf}... Ask apt what it is cacheing... if [ -n "$(apt-cache policy | grep 'buster/non-free')" ]; then echo "yes include non-free repo"

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread al3xu5
Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 - tito : > Two serious question arise now? > > 1) should echo "ALWAYS_SET_PATH true" > /etc/default/su > be added to the script to restore old su behaviour or > should that be left to the user I think it should be left to the user, using the buster "p

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 16:01:02 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > > > This might be a good one to ask the users. > > > > > fsmithred > > > > > Agreed. > > But if you did want to do it programmatically without parsing every > sources.{d/*,conf}... Ask apt what it is cacheing... > > if [ -n "$

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:53:59 +0200 al3xu5 wrote: > Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 - tito : > > > > > Two serious question arise now? > > > > 1) should echo "ALWAYS_SET_PATH true" > /etc/default/su > > be added to the script to restore old su behaviour or > > should that be left to

Re: [DNG] strange mutt pauses

2021-04-14 Thread onefang
On 2021-04-14 17:49:45, d...@d404.nl wrote: > On 14-04-2021 16:19, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I have an unreliable connection between my server and the rest of the > > world. > > Yes, I'm going to have to deal with that; it's not what I'm asking about. > > > > I have a reliable wired connection from

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.7

2021-04-14 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, v 1.7 now with supported DE's: 1) GNOME 2) LXDE 3) LXQT 4) XFCE 5) KDE 6) MATE and minor fixes, improvements and cleanups. Added user choice for non-free and contrib repos. Ciao, Tito migration.sh Description: application/shellscript ___ Dn

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.7

2021-04-14 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 14 April 2021 at 22:03:45, tito via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > v 1.7 1. Why ask "yes or no" *before* checking for root (which is needed)? I would check for root first, and *then* ask "do you want to proceed?", otherwise you're asking "do you want to do this?" and then saying "you can't"

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.7.1

2021-04-14 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:16:11 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > On Wednesday 14 April 2021 at 22:03:45, tito via Dng wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > v 1.7 > > 1. Why ask "yes or no" *before* checking for root (which is needed)? > > I would check for root first, and *then* ask "do you want to > proceed?", o

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.7.1

2021-04-14 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 14 April 2021 at 22:23:00, tito via Dng wrote: > V.1.7.1 :) Antony. -- Atheism is a non-prophet-making organisation. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread aitor
Hi Steve, On 14/4/21 15:02, Steve Litt wrote: I think free software purist snobs drive more people back to Windows than cleanse people of their non-free ways. The adversary of the fsf isn't Windows, but the propietary software in general wherever it may come from. In this context, whether a pro

Re: [DNG] BUG in desktop-base

2021-04-14 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 18:20:37 -0400 fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 4/13/21 6:13 PM, tito via Dng wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 23:19:06 +0200 > > aitor wrote: > > > >> Hi Tito, > >> > >> On 13/4/21 8:08, tito via Dng wrote: > >>> cat /sys/class/drm/card0-Virtual-1/modes > >>> preferred > >>> 256

Re: [DNG] strange mutt pauses

2021-04-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 05:40:25AM +1000, onefang wrote: > On 2021-04-14 17:49:45, d...@d404.nl wrote: > > On 14-04-2021 16:19, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > I have an unreliable connection between my server and the rest of the > > > world. > > > Yes, I'm going to have to deal with that; it's not what

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
I’m not sure if this is a good way to do it but when Ubuntu is upgraded to a new version the release upgrade tool disables all third-party apt sources and PPA sources by commenting them out in the sources.list/sources.list.d files and notifying the user this has been done. The user then has to e

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread Steve Litt
fsmithred via Dng said on Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:57:38 -0400 >On 4/14/21 9:50 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 09:02:54AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >>> tito via Dng said on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 >>> >>> 2) should non-free and contrib repos be added to sources.list

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread Steve Litt
al3xu5 said on Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:53:59 +0200 >Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 - tito : > > >Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:02:54 -0400 - Steve Litt >: >[ Extra OT comment START > >> Stating it the inverse way, I HATE these installs that bomb because >> there's no FSF-satisfying drivers, firmware or soft

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.7

2021-04-14 Thread Steve Litt
Antony Stone said on Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:16:11 +0200 >On Wednesday 14 April 2021 at 22:03:45, tito via Dng wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> v 1.7 > >1. Why ask "yes or no" *before* checking for root (which is needed)? > >I would check for root first, and *then* ask "do you want to >proceed?", otherwise yo

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread Steve Litt
aitor said on Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:28:59 +0200 >Hi Steve, > >On 14/4/21 15:02, Steve Litt wrote: >> I think free software purist snobs drive more people back to >> Windows than cleanse people of their non-free ways. >The adversary of the fsf isn't Windows, but the propietary software in >general