Re: [DNG] Qt, KDE, unbelievable

2022-01-22 Thread Simon
o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Now if all that advertising was actually good for something except making rich > people richer - - - - Or simply paying for things that people want but don’t want to pay directly for ? The problem isn’t the advertising pe se, it’s the lengths advertisers (and some o

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-22 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/19/22 21:46, goli...@devuan.org wrote: On 2022-01-19 12:50, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: On 1/17/22 23:17, goli...@devuan.org wrote: [snip]> This is not a trivial task. The many pieces that need to be coordinated are described in this HOW-TO: https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/b

Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs

2022-01-22 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 1/21/22 22:26, Hendrik Boom wrote: [snip] Whatever the licence then, it seems to have ended up with a sufficiently free licence for Intel to put a copy of it in the management engine in their CPUs for the last decade or so *without informing Tannenbaum*. Tannenbaum was miffed; he said the lice

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-22 Thread golinux
On 2022-01-22 13:23, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: On 1/19/22 21:46, goli...@devuan.org wrote: On 2022-01-19 12:50, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: On 1/17/22 23:17, goli...@devuan.org wrote: [snip]> This is not a trivial task. The many pieces that need to be coordinated are described in this HOW-TO:

[DNG] Another one bytes the dust

2022-01-22 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, Apparently the Debian project is still using its unalterable yet gameable bureaucracy to screw over those whose opinions differ from Debian's political core... Please view the following email thread by Norbert Preining and others: https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2018/12/msg00032.

Re: [DNG] Another one bytes the dust

2022-01-22 Thread golinux
On 2022-01-22 14:01, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Apparently the Debian project is still using its unalterable yet gameable bureaucracy to screw over those whose opinions differ from Debian's political core... Please view the following email thread by Norbert Preining and others: https://lists.de

Re: [DNG] Another one bytes the dust

2022-01-22 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 03:01:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Apparently the Debian project is still using its unalterable yet > gameable bureaucracy to screw over those whose opinions differ from > Debian's political core... > > Please view the following email thread by Norbert Prein

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-22 Thread Steve Litt
o1bigtenor via Dng said on Thu, 20 Jan 2022 07:03:27 -0600 >AIUI there are not only different forms of color blindedness but also >different levels. Putting that all together means a very large amount >of complexity. > >Likely an easy path to avoid most difficulties - - - use only strong >primary

Re: [DNG] Another one bytes the dust

2022-01-22 Thread Steve Litt
Tomasz Torcz said on Sat, 22 Jan 2022 21:24:01 +0100 >On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 03:01:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Apparently the Debian project is still using its unalterable yet >> gameable bureaucracy to screw over those whose opinions differ from >> Debian's political core...

Re: [DNG] Another one bytes the dust

2022-01-22 Thread ael via Dng
On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 03:01:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > Please view the following email thread by Norbert Preining and others: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2018/12/msg00032.html > > Best I can tell, because of one recent complaint and a review of his > "tone" in 2012 to 20

Re: [DNG] Another one bytes the dust

2022-01-22 Thread ael via Dng
On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 09:12:12PM +, ael via Dng wrote: > On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 03:01:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > Would it make any sense to invite Norbert Preining to become part of > > the Devuan project? > > I suggested that to him in a private email when that was current. >

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Hendrik Boom writes: > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 02:08:12PM -0700, Bob Proulx via Dng wrote: >> goli...@devuan.org wrote: >> > Lars Noodén wrote: >> > > What quality of display(s) and color calibration are required? >> > >> > In all the years I have been doing this, that question has never ente

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, wirelessduck--- via Dng writes: > On 20 Jan 2022, at 23:33, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > It's nice if the desktop colours look good on a perfectly calibrated monitor. > But what's more important for it to look good on the variety of monitors > regular users use. > So we should test the imag

[DNG] Screen readability (was Re: The Daedalus desktop needs some love)

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Steve Litt writes: > [...] > > I asked them to change it and they said "no problem, you change it at > the Grub prompt." So I tried, but they'd set the console font to about 6 > point gray on black. I asked them to change the console font and they > said I should change it, even though it wa

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Antony Stone writes: > On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 11:39:25, Steve Litt wrote: > >> goli...@devuan.org said on Thu, 20 Jan 2022 00:07:20 -0600 >> >> >THIS is the official Devuan logo: >> > >> >https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics >> >/devuan-logo-1000

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Florian Zieboll via Dng writes: > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:34:28 -0500 > tempforever wrote: > >> Something to check/verify: >> If swap is listed in /etc/fstab, then make sure it is listed by UUID >> rather than block-id. >> I mention this, since I have a (commented out) swap line in /etc/fsta

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-22 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 23 Jan 2022, at 13:27, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > > Hi, > > wirelessduck--- via Dng writes: > >> On 20 Jan 2022, at 23:33, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> >> It's nice if the desktop colours look good on a perfectly calibrated monitor. >> But what's more important for it to look good on