Re: [DNG] Stability will be achieved when you spend all of your time reporting on the nothing you did.

2022-02-07 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
One more thing to note, in about:config you'll notice one of the options is telemetry *server*. Is it possible that firefox is actually 'serving' the telemetry data to sites that request it? Sure seems like the kind of dirty underhanded trick that someone might try. The fact that the data is there

Re: [DNG] Stability will be achieved when you spend all of your time reporting on the nothing you did.

2022-02-07 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Mon, 2022-02-07 at 09:23 -0500, Ken Dibble wrote: > Application: firefox 78.15.0esr > > > URL: about:telemetry#home-tab > > Page contains statement: Telemetry is collecting release data and > upload > is disabled. > > > URL :about:telemetry#histograms-tab > > Page contains seemingly

Re: [DNG] Genuine, legitimate Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video: Was: Early Days at Bell Labs - Youtube, the systemd of video

2022-01-18 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Sun, 2022-01-16 at 15:58 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Now, does anybody have anything to say about the CONTENT of the video > at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECCr_KFl41E ? I enjoyed the video. To be more specific, I liked his assessment of what 'ingredients' led to unix development and his

Re: [DNG] [OT] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-13 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
No problem. Happy that you found it useful :D On Thu, 2022-01-13 at 10:52 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!! > > I've needed this for the last 23 years. Thank you! > > SteveT ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] [OT] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-13 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
I don't have anything of my own to add except that single quotes result in the same behavior as double quotes in this case. I was curious about that after reading about the difference between single and double quotes in the Advanced Bash Scripting Guide or abs guide. I'm a novice obviously. I

Re: [DNG] networking thinking

2021-12-24 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Sun, 2021-11-28 at 07:20 -0600, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: I've been looking at pfsense and opnsense. Sorry for reviving a month old thread but I'm just catching up on emails and thought it might be useful to share that Opnsense hasn't supported x86 for about 2 years. I use Opnsense and have

Re: [DNG] AppArmor

2021-09-05 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Sun, 2021-09-05 at 16:21 +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > one stupid question that struck my mind right now could > apparmor control itself? > could you write an apparmor profile to limit what apparmor > is doing? > > Ciao, > Tito Haha "Who polices the police?" "We do." - the police

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Sun, 2021-09-05 at 12:54 +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > Hi, > I'm not very fond of apparmor for various reasons: > > 1) I experienced unexpected behavior of programs > silently failing to do something (log, run, etc) > because the apparmor profile was wrong/bugged I experienced the

Re: [DNG] Opennic

2021-03-11 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Thu, 2021-03-11 at 17:10 +, Simon Hobson wrote: > Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > > > You're right that I didn't address the fact that queries to root > > servers don't all go to one server. My understanding of that wasn't > > firm when I was writing so

Re: [DNG] Opennic

2021-03-11 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Thu, 2021-03-11 at 13:14 +, Simon Hobson wrote: > Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > > > Of course using a local (or controlled by you) caching dns resolver > > ENHANCES privacy. That's not even a question and doesn't represent > > a > > real argument against th

Re: [DNG] Opennic

2021-03-10 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Wed, 2021-03-10 at 20:04 -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Gabe Stanton via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > Of course using a local (or controlled by you) caching dns resolver > > ENHANCES privacy. > > You really should have stopped there. > > > That'

Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-10 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Tue, 2021-03-09 at 22:07 -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Dimitris via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > so, i would be interested to know, if there's a privacy issue with > > opennnic? > > I have no problem with people who decide to adopt alternate roots. > > What I was talking about

Re: [DNG] Opennic

2021-03-10 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Tue, 2021-03-09 at 22:26 -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Gabe Stanton via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > In the absence of a "community of dns server operators and users", > > is > > the optimal option to have everyone run their own recursive server? >

Re: [DNG] I kinda sorta got opennic DNS working

2021-03-08 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Mon, 2021-03-08 at 10:34 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > When I added four opennic root servers to my unbound's root.hints, I > couldn't resolve grep.geek on my unbound server at 192.168.0.102, > even > though I could resolve it from the opennic root servers. > > Then I commented out

Re: [DNG] Opennic - (was: web conferencing software (was: something else))

2021-03-08 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
Redirecting this thread back to the list. See below q and a between Steve and me. On Mon, 2021-03-08 at 09:16 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-03-08 at 06:40 -0700, Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > > Oh, and one more thing since you mentioned icann, one t

Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-08 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Mon, 2021-03-08 at 06:40 -0700, Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > On Mon, 2021-03-08 at 10:08 +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > Στις 8/3/21 12:29 π.μ., ο/η Rick Moen έγραψε: > > > Leaving aside my being disappointed about people willingly > > > outsourcing > > &g

Re: [DNG] web conferencing software (was Re: Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver?)

2021-03-08 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Mon, 2021-03-08 at 10:08 +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > Στις 8/3/21 12:29 π.μ., ο/η Rick Moen έγραψε: > > Leaving aside my being disappointed about people willingly > > outsourcing > > their recursive DNS to the second-nosiest company on the planet[1] > > +1.1.1.1 ... don't forget cloudflare

Re: [DNG] apparmor? (was Re: What does this remind you of?)

2021-03-07 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Sun, 2021-03-07 at 19:39 +0100, al3xu5 wrote: > Maybe it was installed by default or maybe I had installed it ages > ago and > > it hasremained over time, a dist-upgrade after the other. > > > > So, I would like your advice: is there any sense that I keep it on > the > > system? Or can I

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Fri, 2021-03-05 at 07:05 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi Gabe, > > I'm also going to try to get a Jitsi-centric VM running. But you > needn't wait to install Jitsi on your own computer to enjoy Jitsi. > For > over a year, GoLUG (my local LUG) has met at > https://meet.jit.si/golug, > with

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-05 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 18:54 -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Here are my (raw, and I stress, _raw_) notes from setting up Jitsi > Meet > (on Amazon EC2, on Debian 10) in a tearing hurry for the 2020 World > Science Fiction Convention (the '2020 Worldcon'), which was forced by > the exploding pandemic to

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-04 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 18:47 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi Gabe, > > Could you please be explicit about what you mean by "meetup"? If you > mean something organized by meetup.com, then you're talking about > something where you have to sign an indemnification agreement, and at > least to some

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 19:31 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > check out invidio.us, but even better help out with peertube, an > > alternative p2p platform ;-) > > Oh Oh: "As of September 1st 2020, invidio.us has closed down. To see > this content, please select another instance, or visit directly on

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 19:41 +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > check out invidio.us, but even better help out with peertube, an > > alternative p2p platform ;-) I'll check them out, thanks! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Very offtopic: 70's music

2021-03-04 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Thu, 2021-03-04 at 16:51 +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > in anycase disco would be last on my list of 70s music :P not even a little redneck disco? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaK3a44BghU I admit it's from the 80's but it's still a sweet song. I tend to agree about 70's music, it's

Re: [DNG] Any interest in a Devuan Meetup in Colorado Springs or Denver? (was "GNUPGP Web of trust")

2021-03-03 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Sun, 2021-02-28 at 17:29 +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > haven't been in any online key signing parties, only a handful of > physical ones so far (makes more sense seeing/confirming/trusting in > person...). but all that, pre-covid... > to work around the pandemic somehow, i'd probably start

Re: [DNG] GNUPGP Web of trust

2021-02-26 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
I obviously haven't done enough reading lol. Thanks for the link. On Fri, 2021-02-26 at 22:06 +, Simon Hobson wrote: > Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > > > Is it as simple as inviting anyone that wants to, to send their > > public > > key to this list? I'm not exp

Re: [DNG] How to firewall on Devuan?

2021-02-24 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Wed, 2021-02-24 at 18:58 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 07:26:35AM -0700, Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > > If I understand correctly, the iptables cli that we use now is just > > a > > wrapper around nftables. > > Actually, there are two indep

Re: [DNG] GNUPGP Web of trust

2021-02-24 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Wed, 2021-02-24 at 15:23 +, g4sra via Dng wrote: > I don't like the way SSL Certs are managedso that only leaves > gpg. > > Recently had an issue with gpg which disturbed some grey cells and > disrupted their slumber. > > I don't get out much (lockdown understatement) so my current

Re: [DNG] How to firewall on Devuan?

2021-02-24 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Wed, 2021-02-24 at 16:00 +0200, Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > There is an awful lot of inertia for iptables, more than there was > for > ipchains, but iptables is rather difficult to learn and use. It has > also been succeeded by nftables, which is where the development is > happening. So even

Re: [DNG] How to firewall on Devuan?

2021-02-24 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Wed, 2021-02-24 at 21:32 +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Do not uncomment the #allow-hotplug eth0 line. Doing so leads > to a delay when booting. Just a note about the above, allow-hotplug eth0 seems to be necessary on your VM. As for the delay in booting, I've had that ever since

Re: [DNG] How to turn off the firewall

2021-02-22 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Mon, 2021-02-22 at 09:22 -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > I use this to remove all rules: > > iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT > iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT > iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT > iptables -t nat -F > iptables -t mangle -F > iptables -F > iptables -X > > I can't speak for the provenance, but

Re: [DNG] Assigning a specific subnet and address to a Devuan Beowulf Qemu guest

2021-02-18 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Thu, 2021-02-18 at 05:30 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > 1) Is the following /etc/network/interfaces on the guest, or on > thehost? > 2) If on the guest, do I need to have the "gateway" part of the > br0iface be an address *other* than the gateway the host and rest of > theLAN uses? > 3) Is a TAP

Re: [DNG] Assigning a specific subnet and address to a Devuan Beowulf Qemu guest

2021-02-17 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Wed, 2021-02-17 at 16:28 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi Gabe, > On your guest VM, what does it say your default route is when > youperform the ip route command? results of ip route: default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth0 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.75 > Did you

Re: [DNG] Assigning a specific subnet and address to a Devuan Beowulf Qemu guest

2021-02-17 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Wed, 2021-02-17 at 11:26 -0700, Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > On Tue, 2021-02-16 at 07:55 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > Thanks Ralph, > > I had left them both out, but putting them in didn't change > > thesymptom. I tried with only auto eth0, and that didn't change

Re: [DNG] Assigning a specific subnet and address to a Devuan Beowulf Qemu guest

2021-02-17 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Tue, 2021-02-16 at 07:55 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Thanks Ralph, > I had left them both out, but putting them in didn't change > thesymptom. I tried with only auto eth0, and that didn't change > thesymptom either. > Thanks, > SteveT > Steve Litt Just want to throw this out there in case it

Re: [DNG] Synaptics Touchpad Fn+F9

2021-02-05 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Fri, 2021-02-05 at 13:23 +, g4sra via Dng wrote: > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐On Friday, February 5, 2021 11:12 AM, > Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > Am 4. Februar 2021 20:13:49 MEZ schrieb g4sra g4...@protonmail.com: > > > ‐‐‐ Original

Re: [DNG] AppArmor and TorBrowser

2021-01-24 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Fri, 2021-01-22 at 09:46 -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > AppArmor... Ascii didn't have AppArmor, and after upgrading to Beowulf I started getting some errors as well. A little searching told me that AppArmor errors are common and I ended up just purging AppArmor altogether. I haven't had any

Re: [DNG] Advertisements to list (was: Devuan 3.0 Orca Problem)

2020-07-25 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
ut objecting to *that particular* > ad. > > SteveT > > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 09:04:38 -0600 > Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > > > Sorry if I sounded like a jerk, I don't intend to be one. > > Advertisements just tend to irritate me, like nails on a > > chalkboard. > >

Re: [DNG] "Free" email accounts: was Devuan 3.0 Orca Problem

2020-07-25 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 12:38 -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > If you can't help him, please just be quiet. I'll continue to speak my mind when I want to, but I'll choose my words more carefully in the future (and hopefully think more about the fine points of my argument before typing).

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.0 Orca Problem

2020-07-24 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
every so often, they will try to turn it back on. > Very sneaky . . . > > On 2020-07-24 08:21, Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > > Sorry I don't have anything helpful regarding orca, but that looks > > like > > an advertisement in your signature. > > Are advertisements

Re: [DNG] Devuan 3.0 Orca Problem

2020-07-24 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
Sorry I don't have anything helpful regarding orca, but that looks like an advertisement in your signature. Are advertisements in signatures allowed in this list? I think advertisements of any sort should be banned from this list. I don't read (and occasionally participate on) this list to be

Re: [DNG] Upgrade problem [ ascii -> beowulf ] chrooted bind9 server -- /usr/share/dns/root.hints issue -- with fix

2020-07-05 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
It should be. I had the same problem a little over a month ago and that fixed it for me. Been running fine since. On Mon, 2020-07-06 at 00:39 +1000, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > Okay, not fully fixed after reboot... apparmor gave problems as > previously discussed on the list. > >

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of laptop have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-18 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
I installed Devuan Ascii on a Lenovo W530 via the live desktop installer. I upgraded to Beowulf Beta a few months ago. The install and upgrade were a breeze. In general things are good. The only issue since upgrading to Beowulf is that if I run a cpu-heavy program for long periods of time, I get

Re: [DNG] kernel instability 4.9.0-12 with latest update

2020-03-18 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
the time for a few months without issue. On Tue, 2020-03-17 at 14:26 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 09:39:21AM -0600, Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > > One more thing, I'm actually on kernel version 4.19.0.8, but again, > > this issue started when I upgraded to beowulf.

Re: [DNG] kernel instability 4.9.0-12 with latest update

2020-03-17 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
One more thing, I'm actually on kernel version 4.19.0.8, but again, this issue started when I upgraded to beowulf. On Tue, 2020-03-17 at 09:34 -0600, Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > I've had problems with my machine freezing as well, same symptoms, > ever > since upgrading to beowulf.

Re: [DNG] kernel instability 4.9.0-12 with latest update

2020-03-17 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
I've had problems with my machine freezing as well, same symptoms, ever since upgrading to beowulf. The issue for me seems to happen when I run a cpu/ram heavy program, specifically a cpu cryptominer. I've had it happen a number of times, always when mining with max 2 cores, but haven't dedicated

Re: [DNG] Installation difficulties (Robert Parker)

2019-11-06 Thread Gabe Stanton via Dng
Sorry for the late response. I see you've got a dual boot solution in place, but for anyone looking this up in the future I figured I'd leave my input. I've run into this issue before (more than once). For future reference, I always make sure to do a couple things (this info refers to booting