Re: [Dng] TPM

2014-12-23 Thread Joe Awni
And now you know why i did not want to be the one to explain TPM, because i often make little mistakes, such as typo. Or, for example, quoting only half of a sentence as Jaromil points out. Or assuming that, like myself, the readers of this list have spent a life-time studying operating systems' d

Re: [Dng] TPM

2014-12-23 Thread Joe Awni
I didn't want to go down this thread, but i feel compelled to respond to the non-sense and hysteria surrounding TPM. As i said before, they are stuffing your open mind with rubbage. TPM is not part of Ethernet. Perhaps it's been mistaken for IPMI / BMC ( which btw does have known holes ["so if you

Re: [Dng] TPM

2014-12-22 Thread Joe Awni
Not wanting to be a TPM promoter or mailing-list-linguist, but i see even more problems with the writings on TPM here: I see rhetorical questions used fold uninformed opinations into an invagination of ignorance on this mailing list. ( ie: "What can it do in the right? Nothing...") Also, I see an

[Dng] TPM

2014-12-22 Thread Joe Awni
OK, at first i was a bit concerned that i would be off topic in the Packaging system thread, but i have read so much misinformed fear-mongering, that i decide to clear this up with it's own thread. First, let me be the first to say i am not the person to explain TPM technology or crypto primitives

Re: [Dng] Packaging system / TPM

2014-12-22 Thread Joe Awni
>Yep, also Poettering is a big fan and supporter of TPM, and stated on a >recent podcast (that was linked in this list I think) something along the >lines of "Once we all run systemd, TPM will finally work properly." TPM of >course is the continuation of the Clipper Chip, but dolled up to get the >