On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 05:58:11 -0300
pekman wrote:
> Slitaz is very good Linux distribution for old computers. See
> slitaz.org
The latest "news" is from 20 May 2015:
http://slitaz.org/en/news/
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hat board.
I'm running Devuan Beowulf with an Armbian kernel and a "performance"
governor. Someone said that switching to "performance" seems to resolve
the issue.
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 13:15:57 +0100
g4sra via Dng wrote:
> > No need IMHO, it was the core issue...
>
> So you have solved the issue, great!
Nope, we found a Quick and Dirty workaround
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:48:16 +0100
g4sra via Dng wrote:
> >> How do you know the mount is failing ?
> >
> > It's not mounted after mount command.
>
> I have not seen any evidence of that, can you point me to it please.
No need IMHO, it was the core issu
fail option brought you a bit further.
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 20:54:06 +0200
"J. Fahrner" wrote:
> Am 2020-06-14 20:48, schrieb richard lucassen:
> > What happens if you change the content of that script:
> >
> > #!/bin/dash
> > echo 5 > /sys/module/usb_storage/parameters/delay_use
>
> F
#!/bin/dash
echo 5 > /sys/module/usb_storage/parameters/delay_use
in a script /etc/rcS.d/00test.sh, just for test, normally you must set
a link.
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parameters, then:
echo "options g_mass_storage delay_use=5" > \
/etc/modprobe.d/g_mass_storage.conf
It's a pretty old kernel, if it doesn't work and the module is built
in, one thing you might try is to put:
#!/bin/dash
echo 5 > /sys/module/usb_storage/parame
On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 18:38:48 +0200
"J. Fahrner via Dng" wrote:
> Am 2020-06-14 17:25, schrieb richard lucassen via Dng:
> > echo "options usb_storage delay_use=5" >
> > /etc/modprobe.d/usb_storage.conf
>
> seems not to work.
>
> After
On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 17:24:01 +0200
richard lucassen via Dng wrote:
Oops:
echo "options usb_storage delay_use=5" /etc/modprobe.d/usb_storage.conf
must be:
echo "options usb_storage delay_use=5" > /etc/modprobe.d/usb_storage.conf
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"J. Fahrner via Dng" wrote:
> Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY
You may try this:
echo "options usb_storage delay_use=5" /etc/modprobe.d/usb_storage.conf
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125831
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 13:03:13 +0200
"J. Fahrner" wrote:
> But if I do it interactively with "sudo mount /hdd" the drive gets
> mounted and the waiting daemons are started.
>
> I'm very confused...
When you mount it interactively the path is different and maybe it's
waiting for some input.
Try
t; /tmp/dmesg
and look if there are any messages there
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On Sun, 14 Jun 2020 08:21:51 +0200
"J. Fahrner via Dng" wrote:
> Am 2020-06-13 22:10, schrieb richard lucassen via Dng:
> > I have no idea. But mountall is in runlevel S, not 2. What if you
> > mount it explicitely in a temporary script
> > called /etc/rcS.d/
evel S, not 2. What if you mount
it explicitely in a temporary script called /etc/rcS.d/99mount.sh ? That
is before runlevel 2 starts.
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On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 21:07:37 +0200
richard lucassen via Dng wrote:
> No, maybe it has got something to do with these "big disk" messages.
> Wouldn't it be an idea to copy a part of that dist to a "not such a
> big disk" and see what happens?
s/dist/
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 20:28:03 +0200
"J. Fahrner via Dng" wrote:
> Am 2020-06-13 20:18, schrieb richard lucassen via Dng:
> > That was the "rootwait" parameter as I said somewhere. Used for USB
> > and MMC disks.
>
> "The rootwait kernel parameter
mage=/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.223
label=4.9.223
read-only
append="rootwait root=/dev/sda3 console=ttyS0,115200n8"
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ver started it. I solved it by adding a delay to the
> kernel before mounting the rootfs - there was a parameter for that.
>
> Maybe it's just enough to add such a delay before trying to mount
> your USB disk.
That was the "rootwait" parameter as I said somewhe
rors. But it does not wait for the device!
> I can't experiment here. If it does not boot I have to remove the
> emmc card and undo the change on my pc.
ok, I assume it's u-boot? In that case you can easily try to boot from
another disk. But apparently you do not have access
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 09:55:54 +0200
"J. Fahrner" wrote:
> Am 2020-06-13 09:49, schrieb richard lucassen:
> > What is on that disk? Why not make that disk the root filesystem and
> > pass "rootwait" to the kernel?
>
> I'm afraid that won't work
/bin/mount /dev/disk /mnt/mountpoint
;;
esac
put this in /etc/init.d/mount-disk.sh
run: update-rc.d mount-disk.sh defaults
and check if there is a link in /etc/rcS.d/ called S00mount-disk.sh
Just a guess. Not tested of course.
My 2cts,
R.
so I stayed with rdate.
I used to use ntp and ntpdate -B, but as I switched to openntpd I
resolved the non-RTC issue with rdate. Remember that is just the clock
of a small board, not a stratum 1 server ;-)
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LABEL=Elements /hdd ext4 defaults,noauto 0 2
Just to see if it comes up.
Just my 2 cts,
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around when there
> are multiple good NTP implementations available.
Yes and no:
-n Use SNTP (old RFC 2030, currently RFC 5905) instead of the RFC
868 time protocol.
# rdate -n ntp.xs4all.nl
Fri Jun 12 12:07:04 CEST 2020
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ystem's date from a remote host
I use it on boards without RTC, just after the network comes up and
before openntpd takes over. No need for "fake-hwclock".
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cii image:
> https://mirror.leaseweb.com/devuan/devuan_ascii/embedded/README.txt
The ASCII image is ok, but I updated this image to Beowulf and I used
Armbian kernel with it. But I fear it will crash again. Anyway, I just
got some Rasberry Pi Zero-W now and I think I will stay with these
boa
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 20:56:30 +0200
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Oh, BTW, kudos for the one who made these images. Just the strict
necessary. No bloat or junk.
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s with these boards?
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> > brctl and ifconfig are legitimately deprecated. Assuming you have
> > done better checking, then the failure may be caused by them
> > bailing out.
>
> ifconfig is deprecated? What is to be used instead?
ip
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Anyone here had the same problem?
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e more official way to do it.
Maybe sysv-rc-conf is a nice tool for this:
apt-get install sysv-rc-conf
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On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:39:31 -0400
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:11:11 +0200
> richard lucassen wrote:
>
> > > My buddy told me there's an idiot born every minute.
> >
> > We live in an idiocracy nowadays.
>
> Given there are
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 03:33:49 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> My buddy told me there's an idiot born every minute.
We live in an idiocracy nowadays.
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advice on that.
I'm not against vdev, not al all, but what if the kernel changes and
vdev has to be adapted? Who's going to do that job?
What is happening now is that we're going to package an orphaned
project. I don't think that is a good idea...
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ld certainly have participated in
the project. For the moment Devuan is still equipped with udev-systemd,
so Devuan is very very dependent on the systemd guys. Just something
nobody wants here.
And with "freedom of choice" in mind: indeed, it would be nice if eudev
would be available an
as been no response from the original vdev author, I think
it's better to package eudev for Devuan and to make it available for
Jessie and Ascii. The latest version is 3.2.
Any thoughts on this?
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Otherwise a site like the Kernel Fuck-o-Meter:
http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/wordcount/
would not exist :)
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On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 13:51:55 +0200
Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > No. apt doesn't know about the repository :-P
>
> ...until you tell it in /etc/apt/sources* ;o)
Yes, but I don't :)
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Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting richard lucassen (mailingli...@lucassen.org):
>
> > On my workstations I have no caching DNS.
>
> The term 'caching DNS' doesn't actually mean anything.[1] All DNS
> software _caches_; even t
t a local resolver the default? Why do we rely on the ISP to
> do provide one with DHCP?
Now you're assuming that apart from a local resolver there exists only
an ISP resolver. On my Linux gateway I run unbound. That's my resolver
for the internal network. That's the place to use
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 03:25:01 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting richard lucassen (mailingli...@lucassen.org):
>
> > When you have no network on the machine ntp notes that there is no
> > network, then it stops AFAIK. But if you have a wrong resolv.conf or
> > something lik
a newer version can be aptitude etc upgrade'd in place... :o)
No. apt doesn't know about the repository :-P
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"Ismael L. Donis Garcia" wrote:
> Hopefully in the future we can have 2 alternatives and that the user
> can decide which one to use.
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inly, a service that waits to timeout
> for lack of network access is annoying -- on some micrometer scale in
> a universe that also includes death taxes, and bilious orange buffoons
> aspiring to the USA's Presidency.
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> right.
That's a script issue. That has a lower priority IMHO ;-)
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Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting richard lucassen (mailingli...@lucassen.org):
>
> > I might not have been clear enough. My apologies ;-)
>
> No worries. As an afterthought, though, wouldn't that problem exist
> equally with ntpdate, th
at might well be a point, then. Thanks for clarifying! I actually
> have no significant amount of experience with systemd problems, and
> seriously didn't understand what you were saying at first. (My
> apologies.)
I might not have been clear enough. My apologies ;-)
OpenNTP is run
manpage of OpenNTP: OpenNTP waits 15 secs max :)
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se Proxmox, that's very simple:
http://www.proxmox.com/en/
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x27;ll have a look into OpenNTP, as stated
elswhere in this thread. Simple and secure and I don't need usec
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y about hwclock
settings:
As root:
dpkg --purge ntp
/usr/sbin/ntpdate -b pool.ntp.org
hwclock --systohc
Then:
echo -e "\n*/5 * * * * /usr/sbin/ntpdate -b pool.ntp.org" \
>> /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root
echo -e "\n/usr/sbin/ntpdate -b pool.ntp.org" >> /etc/
de settings still pointing
to the /usr structure.
My 2 cts :)
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 12:54:54 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 11:17:13AM +0200, richard lucassen wrote:
> > We need a vdev package that depends on an empty systemd-udev
> > package. All the other packages that depend on systemd-udev will
> > otherwise be
ropose not to git anymore, but to use Aitor's packages and test
> > these. I think there is still a lot of testing and debugging to do.
> > And we need more testers!
>
> Yes, we need testers :)
I have to do some work now, I look forward to the packages. Maybe you
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 06:33:50 -0400
fsmithred wrote:
> > firmware=/usr/lib/firmware
>
> I think firmware should be set to /lib/firmware. That's where my
> firmware is. I have no /usr/lib/firmware.
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udev (seems to install the libraries)
> apt-get -t nosystemd install udev (honest)
>
> It will rebuild the initrd.
I'll create an extra partition and I will try eudev.
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ave their place in the "normal" Devuan tree. For the
moment you might follow the howt you will find here:
https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev/blob/master/how-to-test.md
That's just the testing of vdev. For this to work you must install the
library deb files like libpstat, no need to
kages and test
these. I think there is still a lot of testing and debugging to do. And
we need more testers!
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> > Do you see the same phenomena?
> >
> > R.
>
> Ok, thanks :)
You're welcome. But do you see the same phenomena? ;-)
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whenever I fsck up the whole thing :)
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fter a
reboot? And how does it look like when you restart vdevd? Do you see
the same phenomena?
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it does not work yet. I think there are a bunch of
other things to do. It adds a usb stick as a character device :-)
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ns is:
>
> //etc/init.d/vdev/actions/*.act/
The init script has the same name as your directory:
/etc/init.d/vdev
And vdevd is told to use the config file in which is stated:
$ grep actions /etc/vdev/vdevd.conf
actions=/etc/vdev/actions
So, why doesn't it start up succesfully?
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But I can build it, but when adding a usb stick it adds it as
a character device :-( And there is little documentation AFAICS. But I
have only played with it for half an hour or so :)
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> And has someone ever played with eudev? Slackware has moved to eudev.
> Maybe it's better to try that instead of vdev?
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And has someone ever played with eudev? Slackware has moved to eudev.
Maybe it's better to try that instead of vdev?
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 11:04:24 +0200
aitor_czr wrote:
> > I've now made a snapshot of the vdev files from the working disk.
> > available at www.realthing.com.au/files/vdev/vdev-snapshot.tgz.
>
> Thanks !
Aitor, does your vdev set the permissions and ownerships correctly
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 16:59:58 +0100
Simon Hobson wrote:
> How long before he decides that Grub needs "improving" ?
How long before he decides that the kernel needs "improving"?
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set to the correct values:
root.disk and 660.
So there must be some or other glitch that jumps the permission
settings.
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I will have al look at your diffs in 5 minutes
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On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 09:34:12 -0400
fsmithred wrote:
> No SD_MOD here...
>
> $ grep SD_MOD /boot/config-3.16.0-4-amd64
find /lib/modules/ -name sd_mod.ko
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richard lucassen wrote:
> But when running:
>
> /sbin/vdevd -v2 -c /etc/vdev/vdevd.conf -l /var/log/vdev/vdev.log /dev
>
> everything seems to work well, the apropiate ownerships and
> permissions are set to the expected settings.
Ownershi
itramfs from the
example directory stops with an error and an empty initramfs file. The
thing I did was symlinking the libudev.so.1
ls -al /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Aug 10 14:08 /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1
-> /lib/libudev.so.1
and to run a update
left it so.
>
> All the required modules are included in the kernel:
>
> SQUASHFS
> LOOP
> SD_MOD
I suppose he means to add the modules to /etc/modules to be sure they
are loaded at boot time.
# cat /etc/modules
loop
sd_mod
squashfs
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On Tue, 9 Aug 2016 22:14:27 +0200
richard lucassen wrote:
> And before that I create an "image" of the working Jessie:
>
> rsync -ax / /opt/backup/
U...
rsync -vax --exclude=/opt/* / /opt/backup/
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this list today: we should not depend
too much on a distro like Debian. I have nothing against systemd, I
have something againt its imperialism.
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device.
Just my 2 cts. Keep up the good work :)
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 17:23:24 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> > I think this question can be removed?:
> >
> > "Participate in the package usage survey?"
>
> It's opt-in, and provides useful data.
It's ok for me, but Devuan != Debian
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I think this package selection option can be removed?:
"Gnome"
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:08:59 +0200
richard lucassen wrote:
I think this question can be removed?:
"Participate in the package usage survey?"
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x27;t tried that? Anyone else maybe?
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 13:58:01 +0200
richard lucassen wrote:
> The Devuan netinstall iso says:
>
> "A CDROM drive has been found and it currently contains the CD Debian
> GNU/Linux 1.0 "Jessie" - Official [..]"
>
> s/Debian/Devuan/
And when asked for a *m
The Devuan netinstall iso says:
"A CDROM drive has been found and it currently contains the CD Debian
GNU/Linux 1.0 "Jessie" - Official [..]"
s/Debian/Devuan/
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t's essential
IMHO. If Devuan stays with udev, it will be swallowed by systemd one
day or another.
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ger, wouldn't it be an idea to statically create all
possible devices in /dev (MAKEDEV) and to have the hotplugger just add
and remove symlinks? I know, I'm a noob, I have no idea what I'm talking
about but you never know :)
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On Fri, 05 Aug 2016 11:55:08 +
Stephanie Daugherty wrote:
> They won't be using it much longer. Chrome and Firefox are well on
> track to phase Flash out entirely over the next year or two.
Two years is an eternity ;-)
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Anyone here running vdev? I just looked around a bit, but there seems to
be little activity:
https://git.devuan.org/unsystemd/vdev/activity
And anyone running good old MAKEDEV here?
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computer.
I know. But webdesigners still use flash on websites. And users want to
use that content.
For that reason I run the browser as a different user that has no
access to my home directory. Sometimes it's annoying, but grosso modo
it works fine.
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