Steve Litt il 18-09-18 00:29:59 ha scritto:
> Your idea merits more research. The "we must cover every corner case"
> crowd can use startx in its Redhat-diminished state, while people like
> us use a <20 line shellscript. Perhaps call it viverna.
I call it "ax" (acronym for Avvia (italian word
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 23:53:39 +0200
viverna wrote:
> Steve Litt il 16-09-18 22:21:11 ha
> scritto:
> > Then here's a solution that bridges all the options: Release Dario's
> > version of startx under some other name, so that Gnome/KDE people
> > can still have their "features", and everyone else
Steve Litt il 16-09-18 22:21:11 ha scritto:
> Then here's a solution that bridges all the options: Release Dario's
> version of startx under some other name, so that Gnome/KDE people can
> still have their "features", and everyone else can have X that works
> and leaves the system in good shape
Hi Dario,
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 09:35:52PM +0200, Dario Niedermann wrote:
> Il 16/09/2018 alle 18:43, Andreas Messer ha scritto:
ddd>
> I see. Anyway I strongly doubt that any DE relies on startx internally:
> it's a shell script that's intended to provide a convenient user
> interface to
On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 18:43:12 +0200
Andreas Messer wrote:
> Hi Dario,
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 10:59:52AM +0200, Dario Niedermann wrote:
> > Il 16/09/2018 alle 10:01, Andreas Messer ha scritto:
> >
> > [...]
> > In short: their addition was a kludge, 100% due to systemd: the only
> > thing
Il 16/09/2018 alle 18:43, Andreas Messer ha scritto:
> Thanks for pointing that out. Unfortunately, many DEs have hopped on
> the systemd train and therefore depend on its services. In particular,
> the missing logind was the main barrier to have DEs like Gnome or KDE
> fully working on Devuan.
Hi Dario,
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 10:59:52AM +0200, Dario Niedermann wrote:
> Il 16/09/2018 alle 10:01, Andreas Messer ha scritto:
>
> [...]
> In short: their addition was a kludge, 100% due to systemd: the only
> thing that was causing problems for them, with the X session being seen
> as
Il 16/09/2018 alle 10:01, Andreas Messer ha scritto:
> Well, this is not really a Devuan Problem. It is more likely related
> to session management present in most modern linux distros.
[...]
> As indicated with one of your links, this "keep-tty" stuff was introduced
> to properly handle session
Hello! After trying Devuan ASCII, I noticed a problem with `startx' that
I never had before: the X server occupies the same tty where `startx'
was issued. It should allocate the first unused tty instead
(default: tty07).
Now, if you have no problem with that, you may disregard the rest
of this