Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-10-01 Thread Peter Duffy
On Thu, 2020-10-01 at 11:31 +0200, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > On Tue 29/Sep/2020 11:10:12 +0200 Simon Hobson wrote: > > Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > > > >>> I have no choice over the neighbours ! > > > >> Don't buy overly cheap connections... > > > > Doesn't matter how much you pa

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-10-01 Thread Alessandro Vesely via Dng
On Tue 29/Sep/2020 11:10:12 +0200 Simon Hobson wrote: Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: I have no choice over the neighbours ! Don't buy overly cheap connections... Doesn't matter how much you pay - unless you get an entire net-block to yourself then you have no control over the neighbour

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-29 Thread Simon Hobson
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: >> I have no choice over the neighbours ! > Don't buy overly cheap connections... Doesn't matter how much you pay - unless you get an entire net-block to yourself then you have no control over the neighbours. Only the ISP has control over the neighbours. > An

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-28 Thread Alessandro Vesely via Dng
On Sun 27/Sep/2020 20:11:39 +0200 Simon Hobson wrote: Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: [...] And it is key to get an IP address without poorly reputed neighbors —check talosintelligence.com. I have no choice over the neighbours ! Don't buy overly cheap connections... I also use lack of

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-28 Thread Simon Hobson
Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> You mean, like in the web hosting days before hostname headers where >> you needed a different IP address for each hosted domain name ? That's >> very 20th century and not a luxury most of us have. > > FWIW, Linode (where my sole server is hosted) gives me a /64 IPv6 bloc

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-09-27 19:11, Simon Hobson wrote: > You mean, like in the web hosting days before hostname headers where > you needed a different IP address for each hosted domain name ? That's > very 20th century and not a luxury most of us have. FWIW, Linode (where my sole server is hosted) gives me a /

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-27 Thread Simon Hobson
Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: >> IIRC the specific complaint wasn't that they checked for rDNS, but that they >> matched it against the domain of the sender. That makes no sense at all, it >> prevents running more than one domain on one mail server. > Why would it? A configurable mail serv

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-27 Thread Alessandro Vesely via Dng
On Sat 26/Sep/2020 23:19:33 +0200 Simon Hobson wrote: Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: I also end up rejecting a lot of spam because it lacks a reverse hostname (it's easily the largest category). So it's not just a few such as ntlworld and gmx that check this. IIRC the specific complaint wasn

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-26 Thread Simon Hobson
Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > I also end up rejecting a lot of spam because it lacks a reverse hostname > (it's easily the largest category). > So it's not just a few such as ntlworld and gmx that check this. IIRC the specific complaint wasn't that they checked for rDNS, but that they matche

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-25 Thread Mark Rousell
On 25/09/2020 18:21, DECbot wrote: > > I had to double check my config. I never got around to forward > outgoing mail through my ssh tunnel. I'm still using the postfix > relayhost parameter to granting me my ISP's blessing to smtp out to > the rest of the world--and likely giving them a copy of al

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-09-24 12:07, Rick Moen wrote: > I've had no problems _without_ DMARC/DKIM (but with a strongly > asserted SPF record). Have been operating home *ix SMTP smarthosts on > static IP with matching rDNS, and maintaining a clean, high-reputation > system since the 1980s. > > I've tried to alwa

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-25 Thread DECbot
On September 24, 2020 5:52:20 AM Mark Rousell wrote: On 23/09/2020 02:32, DECbot wrote: Since my ISP is the devil and blocks port 25, I'm using autossh to forward port 25 traffic to a $5/month vps. Do you have difficulty with your outgoing SMTP being blocked (often silently swallowed, from

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-25 Thread Mark Rousell
On 24/09/2020 20:07, Rick Moen wrote: > > DMARC can be made to be a non-issue. ;-> > > :r! dig -t txt _dmarc.linuxmafia.com +short > "DMARC: tragically misdesigned since 2012. Check our SPF RR, instead." > Basically, in my experience, some operators may be assigning a _very small_ > spamicity

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Mark Rousell (mark.rous...@signal100.com): > Option 1 is a bit embarrassing if anyone notices (e.g. > "host-46462.static.bugtown.myisp.net" isn't too cool as the name of your > mail server) but I don't see any technical downside, although DMARC > might perhaps be an issue nowadays. DMARC

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Marjorie Roome via Dng
On Thu, 2020-09-24 at 17:32 +0100, Mark Rousell wrote: > On 24/09/2020 13:43, Jim Jackson wrote: > > > > > Mostly. Somemail servers do a reverse IP lookup and see if it > > matches your envelope From domain. > > > > Yes, this is an annoyance. There are two ways round

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Mark Rousell
On 24/09/2020 13:43, Jim Jackson wrote: > Mostly. Somemail servers do a reverse IP lookup and see if it matches your > envelope From domain. Yes, this is an annoyance. There are two ways round this: (1) Change your server's SMTP From domain to be the same as your static IP's PTR hostname, and (2

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 24-09-2020 14:43, Jim Jackson wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2020, Mark Rousell wrote: > >> On 24/09/2020 07:30, Dimitris via Dng wrote: >>> in my opinion a home connection server smtp+imap/pop will not be very >>> usable. most rbl's block dynamic addresses so you won't be able to >>> deliver much...

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Jim Jackson
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020, Mark Rousell wrote: > On 24/09/2020 07:30, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > > > in my opinion a home connection server smtp+imap/pop will not be very > > usable. most rbl's block dynamic addresses so you won't be able to > > deliver much... > > In some areas (e.g. the UK), the b

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Mike Tubby
On 24/09/2020 11:14, Mark Rousell wrote: On 24/09/2020 07:30, Dimitris via Dng wrote: in my opinion a home connection server smtp+imap/pop will not be very usable. most rbl's block dynamic addresses so you won't be able to deliver much... In some areas (e.g. the UK), the better ISPs provi

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Mark Rousell
On 24/09/2020 07:30, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > in my opinion a home connection server smtp+imap/pop will not be very > usable. most rbl's block dynamic addresses so you won't be able to > deliver much... In some areas (e.g. the UK), the better ISPs provide static IPs so this issue is bypassed.

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Mark Rousell
On 23/09/2020 02:32, DECbot wrote: > Since my ISP is the devil and blocks port 25, I'm using autossh to > forward port 25 traffic to a $5/month vps. Do you have difficulty with your outgoing SMTP being blocked (often silently swallowed, from what I've seen) to certain large mail services using thi

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-23 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 9/23/20 11:05 PM, Marjorie Roome via Dng wrote: > 1) a more restrictive postfix main.cf than in the guide, so less spam > gets through to rspamd: postfix rejected about 37% of emails last > month, rspamd about 7% with another 5% going to to users spam folders > and is thus reviewable by them. Th

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-23 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 9/20/20 12:55 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > Easiest possible newbie email server setup, use and support, ideas? in my opinion a home connection server smtp+imap/pop will not be very usable. most rbl's block dynamic addresses so you won't be able to deliver much... i'd suggest a host/vps online w

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-23 Thread Marjorie Roome via Dng
Hi Arnt, On Sat, 2020-09-19 at 23:55 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..devuan to the rescue? Norwegian ISP "Get" is ditching their email > service and pointing their clients to a paid service, which again is > pointing them to Gmail's ad laden services, drawing due scorn. [1] > > > ..since we can

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-22 Thread DECbot
Hi, I run a mail server for myself on a small pc (32-bit, 7 watt Via C7 Eden cpu) running Devuan. It was originally built on Debian Wheezy back in 2012 following the wheezy guide found at https://workaround.org/ispmail/wheezy/. After the updates for wheezy trailed off, I followed the instructi

[DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi, ..devuan to the rescue? Norwegian ISP "Get" is ditching their email service and pointing their clients to a paid service, which again is pointing them to Gmail's ad laden services, drawing due scorn. [1] ..since we can do better, I'm thinking "Devuan Email Server Flavor" sort of distro to