On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 15:24:32 +0900, Simon wrote in message
<73cac9f0-c1cf-c050-dcf6-a465c8826...@gikaku.com>:
> On 5/26/21 5:23 PM, Mark Hindley wrote:
> > On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 04:23:56PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote:
> >> On 5/26/21 12:37 AM, Mark Hindley wrote:
> >>> This is actually a Debia
On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 12:05:39AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>
> ..snip "tech" justification of subversive systemd politics.
>
> > So in summary, there is no way of running cockpit in a
> > non-systemd/Linux environment that I'd be willing to support.
Most of the worries mentioed here seem a bi
I’ve been running ispconfig on my beowulf servers for quite some time, now.
security model is more like plesk. nobody should be running cpanel. cpanel is
dangerous. I had several websites hacked. the attack vector was cpanel. all
websites rin under the coanel user. it doesn’t work that way
On 6/8/21 7:05 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
..turns out ebox changed its name, and, it does not support Procmail:
https://zentyal.com/features/
It seemed to be going in a good direction, but maybe they didn't have
enough funding. The last version I used was 5. After that, there was no
benefit, as
If you’re looking at something like zentyal, you could look at HPE’s clearos
as well. there is a free version. It does all the things that zentyal does.
it’s only drawback is that it’s based on centos and it’s laced with systemd.
—Curtis
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> On Jun 10, 2021, at 3:31 AM,
On 10/06/2021 10:36, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote:
If you’re looking at something like zentyal, you could look at HPE’s clearos
as well. there is a free version. It does all the things that zentyal does.
it’s only drawback is that it’s based on centos and it’s laced with systemd.
One thi
On 2021-06-10 18:47, Rowland penny via Dng wrote:
> On 10/06/2021 10:36, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote:
>> If you’re looking at something like zentyal, you could look at HPE’s
>> clearos as well. there is a free version. It does all the things
>> that zentyal does. it’s only drawback is that i
On 08-06-2021 00:46, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 12:05:39AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
..snip "tech" justification of subversive systemd politics.
So in summary, there is no way of running cockpit in a
non-systemd/Linux environment that I'd be willing to support.
Most of the w
Hi,
d...@d404.nl writes:
> On 08-06-2021 00:46, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 12:05:39AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>>> ..snip "tech" justification of subversive systemd politics.
>>>
So in summary, there is no way of running cockpit in a
non-systemd/Linux environment t
On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 19:41:28 +0900
Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
> Hi,
>
> d...@d404.nl writes:
>
> > On 08-06-2021 00:46, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 12:05:39AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> >>> ..snip "tech" justification of subversive systemd politics.
> >>>
> So in
Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng said on Sun, 13 Jun 2021 19:41:28 +0900
>Hi,
>
>d...@d404.nl writes:
>
>> Not hindered by any knowledge about system programming I am wondering
>> how much work it would be to implement a socket activation interface
>> without systemd. Although what I read about its design
tito via Dng writes:
> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 19:41:28 +0900
> Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
>
>> d...@d404.nl writes:
>>
>> > Not hindered by any knowledge about system programming I am
>> > wondering how much work it would be to implement a socket
>> > activation interface without systemd. Altho
On 15/06/2021 10:42, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
>
> If projects decide to throw in their lot with systemd
> (as in not accepting patches to cater to non-systemd setups), I think
> they deserve to be plonked by distributions that don't support systemd.
As a matter of interest, can anyone say ho
On 6/13/21 7:11 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:
On 08-06-2021 00:46, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 12:05:39AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
..snip "tech" justification of subversive systemd politics.
So in summary, there is no way of running cockpit in a
non-systemd/Linux environment tha
Hi Simon,
Simon Walter writes:
> Anyway, I tend to be sympathetic to people like Olaf "A (remote)
> command-line suits just fine." It's when you need to delegate
> administration of users and permissions to someone who does not know the
> CLI. Then you wish for a decent GUI.
I'd cluebat those fo
On 6/21/21 6:26 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
Using adduser/deluser and addgroup/delgroup isn't exactly rocket science
:-P
If they don't get that, then they probably shouldn't be adminning users
and permissions to begin with ...
There are managers who have tasted
G-Suite/O365/Some_Cloud_Provider
Simon Walter writes:
> On 6/21/21 6:26 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>> Using adduser/deluser and addgroup/delgroup isn't exactly rocket science
>> :-P
>>
>> If they don't get that, then they probably shouldn't be adminning users
>> and permissions to begin with ...
>
> There are managers who have t
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 06:26:31PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote:
> Hi Simon,
>
> Simon Walter writes:
>
> > Anyway, I tend to be sympathetic to people like Olaf "A (remote)
> > command-line suits just fine." It's when you need to delegate
> > administration of users and permissions to som
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