Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-29 Thread Aitor
Hi Edward, El 28/9/19 a las 8:42, Edward Bartolo via Dng escribió: With Waterfox, medit and simple-netaid (Lazarus version) running this is my memory use: totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 3835 8201966 11

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-28 Thread Bernard Rosset via Dng
Sigh . . . If only Devuan development could generate the participation and enthusiasm that the silliness of systemd bashing does . . . golinux Nothing silly about it. Devuan was born from systemd bashing. I guess the hint there was to take all that energy aimed towards fruitless projects, l

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-28 Thread Edward Bartolo via Dng
Since, some mentioned KDE, I would like to recount my latest experience with it. I was having difficulty with XFCE as its touch pad configuration is very poor. Moving the mouse pointer around was like dragging 100Kg across rough ground! The displacement of the mouse pointer across the screen was le

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-27 Thread Dan Purgert
On Sep 27, 2019, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Sigh . . . If only Devuan development could generate the participation and > enthusiasm that the silliness of systemd bashing does . . . I gotta get less bad at a lot of things before I can help there :(. -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-27 Thread terryc
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 10:19:32 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: >     Imagine a computer with no user, just root, and an empty /home > directory. You plug in your USB disk and, automatically, your disk is > mounted under /home /and you become a user of this laptop/ - no need > to have root priviledge an

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-27 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 9/27/19 6:41 PM, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Sigh . . . If only Devuan development could generate the participation > and enthusiasm that the silliness of systemd bashing does . . . +1 On 9/27/19 10:14 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > What I *do* suggest is that we aim more of our systemd-bashing at th

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 15:14:44 -0400, Steve wrote in message <20190927151444.0974f...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 10:41:01 -0500 > goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > > Sigh . . . If only Devuan development could generate the > > participation and enthusiasm that the silliness of system

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 10:41:01 -0500 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Sigh . . . If only Devuan development could generate the > participation and enthusiasm that the silliness of systemd bashing > does . . . > > golinux Nothing silly about it. Devuan was born from systemd bashing. And poettering's la

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-27 Thread golinux
On 2019-09-27 08:53, Dan Purgert wrote: On Sep 27, 2019, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 27/09/2019 à 11:45, Dan Purgert a écrit : > On Sep 27, 2019, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 27/09/2019 à 00:25, Steve Litt a écrit : > > > Show of hands: Who ever perceived a problem with using /etc/passwd, > > > /etc/shad

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-27 Thread Dan Purgert
On Sep 27, 2019, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 27/09/2019 à 11:45, Dan Purgert a écrit : > > On Sep 27, 2019, Didier Kryn wrote: > > > Le 27/09/2019 à 00:25, Steve Litt a écrit : > > > > Show of hands: Who ever perceived a problem with using /etc/passwd, > > > > /etc/shadow, and /etc/group? They just

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-27 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 27/09/2019 à 11:45, Dan Purgert a écrit : On Sep 27, 2019, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 27/09/2019 à 00:25, Steve Litt a écrit : Show of hands: Who ever perceived a problem with using /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, and /etc/group? They just worked .     Imagine a computer with no user, just roo

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-27 Thread Dan Purgert
On Sep 27, 2019, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 27/09/2019 à 00:25, Steve Litt a écrit : >> Show of hands: Who ever perceived a problem with using /etc/passwd, >> /etc/shadow, and /etc/group? They just worked . > > >     Imagine a computer with no user, just root, and an empty /home > directory. Y

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-27 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 27/09/2019 à 00:25, Steve Litt a écrit : On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:59:28 +0200 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: Anno domini 2019 Thu, 26 Sep 10:13:56 +0200 Arnt Karlsen scripsit: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/25/systemd_inventor_home_directories/ "those who do not understand Unix hav

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-26 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2019 Fri, 27 Sep 12:36:23 +0900 Simon Walter scripsit: > On 9/27/19 7:25 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > ... > > > > Basically, Kmail became dependent on a huge database called Akonadi and > > an always dragging lookup facility called Nepomuk, to the point that > > you couldn't fix things by

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-26 Thread Simon Walter
On 9/27/19 7:25 AM, Steve Litt wrote: ... > > Basically, Kmail became dependent on a huge database called Akonadi and > an always dragging lookup facility called Nepomuk, to the point that > you couldn't fix things by moving files around or changing a config. I > bailed out of Kmail, and six month

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-26 Thread Ozi Traveller via Dng
"The Emperor's New Clothes" On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:51 AM Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 01:43:03 +0900, Simon wrote in message > <28fc1904-f197-c028-8877-660e8c7b6...@gikaku.com>: > > > I heard them talking about this on Jupiter Broadcasting. I think it > > was in a previous episod

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 12:59:28 +0200 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote: > Anno domini 2019 Thu, 26 Sep 10:13:56 +0200 > Arnt Karlsen scripsit: > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/25/systemd_inventor_home_directories/ > > > > "those who do not understand Unix have to reinvet it poorly" > Show o

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019 01:43:03 +0900, Simon wrote in message <28fc1904-f197-c028-8877-660e8c7b6...@gikaku.com>: > I heard them talking about this on Jupiter Broadcasting. I think it > was in a previous episode they mentioned Devuan too and talked about > how some maintainers of Debian are having se

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-26 Thread Simon Walter
I heard them talking about this on Jupiter Broadcasting. I think it was in a previous episode they mentioned Devuan too and talked about how some maintainers of Debian are having second thoughts. As with PulseAudio and Systemd, it might be a good idea, but the way Mr. Pottering goes about things i

Re: [DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-26 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2019 Thu, 26 Sep 10:13:56 +0200 Arnt Karlsen scripsit: > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/25/systemd_inventor_home_directories/ "those who do not understand Unix have to reinvet it poorly" -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NS

[DNG] ..the D in Systemd is for Directories: Poettering says his creation will phone /home in future ... albeit with broken SSH login

2019-09-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Hi, ..https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/25/systemd_inventor_home_directories/ -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case.