Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On 22/12/17 12:31, Brad Campbell wrote: On 21/12/17 05:13, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: Steve Litt writes: Is there evidence somewhere that Debian DDs use OS/x? It's so common among developers in general that it would be very surprising if zero debianites do it. Macbooks are almost a standard

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On 21/12/17 05:13, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: Steve Litt writes: Is there evidence somewhere that Debian DDs use OS/x? It's so common among developers in general that it would be very surprising if zero debianites do it. Macbooks are almost a standard among developers, certainly a majority of

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

Steve Litt wrote on 12/21/2017 07:42 PM: > And I can go in and change almost anything I > want about this machine. I've used a macbook, iMac and Mac Mini over the course of 10 years but could never quite acclimate to the environment. I always felt like I was driving a borrowed car.

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 12:23:17 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: >     I also feel pretty good being a member of a minority, the > minority of the Linux desktop users. I feel uncomfortable on Windows > and Mac, and like to tweak my desktop. I'm a Linux desktop user too, although my Daily

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

Hello > A quick search found > https://www.geekwire.com/2016/mac-overtakes-linux-as-developers-primary-os-windows-headed-below-50-market-share/ If one takes that statement at face value, then unless HP, Dell, Lenovo, Acer, Sony, etc, etc. change their strategy they are each doomed to make up a

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

Am 21. Dezember 2017 19:08:18 MEZ schrieb goli...@dyne.org: > but wasn't there an issue with not being able > to unlock the screen after suspend requiring > a reboot? I remember two similar situations: In one case some screensaver / -blanking was active and hitting the keyboard helped; in

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On 2017-12-21 05:06, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: I'll find out, and perhaps suggest some change to a package. KDE as built doesn't offer "suspend" as a possible reaction to closing the lid, the /etc/acpi/events directory is empty, and the lid close event doesn't lead to anything in syslog. But I'll

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:23:17PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: >     Concerning the most popular languages, I feel out of the game: the only > one of the list I read and write is C, which is badly ranked. And this reveals what type of developers that site is talking about: those are folks who crank

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

Le 21/12/2017 à 11:30, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit : A quick search found https://www.geekwire.com/2016/mac-overtakes-linux-as-developers-primary-os-windows-headed-below-50-market-share/     Concerning the most popular languages, I feel out of the game: the only one of the list I read and

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 11:06:55AM +, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > kato...@freaknet.org writes: > >So, if everybody switch to macbooks, we don't need to struggle any > >more to make things work on Linux, right? > > That's right. But irrelevant since not everyone will switch to macbooks. > >

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 10:30:40AM +, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > kato...@freaknet.org writes: > >Yes, I see. It's not that macbooks are preferred by developers. It's > >more like they are forced onto them by the marketing departments of > >their companies, who must ensure that their employees'

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

kato...@freaknet.org writes: Yes, I see. It's not that macbooks are preferred by developers. It's more like they are forced onto them by the marketing departments of their companies, who must ensure that their employees' laptops shine at least as much as their competitors'.and then we gasp

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 09:24:51AM +, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > kato...@freaknet.org writes: > >I don't see how macbooks could be the "standard" among developers > >(BTW, what kind of developers?). I cannot associate any feeling except > >*claustrophobia* to the very few times when I had to

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

kato...@freaknet.org writes: I don't see how macbooks could be the "standard" among developers (BTW, what kind of developers?). I cannot associate any feeling except *claustrophobia* to the very few times when I had to use a Mac. But perhaps I don't qualify as the kind of developer to whom Mac

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 09:13:15PM +, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > Steve Litt writes: > >Is there evidence somewhere that Debian DDs use OS/x? > > It's so common among developers in general that it would be very surprising > if zero debianites do it. > > Macbooks are almost a standard among

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

Steve Litt writes: Is there evidence somewhere that Debian DDs use OS/x? It's so common among developers in general that it would be very surprising if zero debianites do it. Macbooks are almost a standard among developers, certainly a majority of the last hundred developers I've worked

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:52:10 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 20/12/2017 à 00:45, Nate Bargmann a écrit : > > Perhaps not DDs explicitly, but there are videos out there at > > *Linux* conferences where some developer opens their Mac laptop and > > proceeds to switch to the VM

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

Le 20/12/2017 à 00:45, Nate Bargmann a écrit : * On 2017 19 Dec 16:12 -0600, Adam Borowski wrote: For people working on server or web crap, that's reasonable (besides the unreasonability of using OS X in general): a good part of server Debian users connect from Windows or Fruits, developers

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

* On 2017 19 Dec 16:12 -0600, Adam Borowski wrote: > For people working on server or web crap, that's reasonable (besides the > unreasonability of using OS X in general): a good part of server Debian > users connect from Windows or Fruits, developers doing so wouldn't make me > bat an eye. Note

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 11:11:24PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 02:17:00PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Is there evidence somewhere that Debian DDs use OS/x? > > > > I have no evidence, but it's not implausible if developing > > Debian is their job. > > For people

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 02:17:00PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:00:50PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 10:23:31 +0100 > > Jaromil wrote: > > > > > This is OT, but AFAIK many Debian developers simply use OSX, > > > > Jaromil, how can

Re: [DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:00:50PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 10:23:31 +0100 > Jaromil wrote: > > > yes, this is no true as you say. Devuan is a universal > > distribution. Also we may consider ourselves to be all 'participants' > > in it, rather than

[DNG] Debian Devs using OSx? was Devuan in the German Wikipedia

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 10:23:31 +0100 Jaromil wrote: > yes, this is no true as you say. Devuan is a universal > distribution. Also we may consider ourselves to be all 'participants' > in it, rather than differentiate between 'users' and 'developers', > since many of those of use