Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-27 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
e.org> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 2:53 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2017 schrieb goli...@dyne.org: That won't be possible for jessie at this late date. Theming takes a LOT of time and is painstaking work. I'm not a fan of TDE - too clunky and

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-26 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2017 schrieb goli...@dyne.org: > That won't be possible for jessie at this late date. Theming takes a > LOT of time and is painstaking work. I'm not a fan of TDE - too clunky > and cluttered for my taste but it will be under consideration for ascii > along with

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-26 Thread Ron
On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 16:00:56 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > > > > On a happier note I have just bought another motorbike, a 1967 LE > > > > Velocette and it is much more fun than anything to do with > > > > software! > > > > > > I understand they have a systemd mod

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-26 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 09:43:06 + Rowland Penny wrote: > On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 20:03:57 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > > On a happier note I have just bought another motorbike, a 1967 LE > > > Velocette and it is much more fun than

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-26 Thread Rowland Penny
On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 20:03:57 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > > > On a happier note I have just bought another motorbike, a 1967 LE > > Velocette and it is much more fun than anything to do with software! > > I understand they have a systemd mod for that bike so that when

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:25:07 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > But it *is* importnt to have a collection of at least one desktop > that actually works in accordance with our commitment to freedom, and > its consequent configurability. > > They seem to be falling for corporate

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 04:14:44 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Dr. Nikolaus Klepp (dr.kl...@gmx.at): > > > As david already pointed out, you could use TDE as default. > > I appreciated David saying that, and meant to reply that I do > apologise for forgetting Trinity

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 07:58:32 +0100 Jochen Fahrner wrote: > Am 23.02.2017 um 00:25 schrieb Hendrik Boom: > > But it *is* importnt to have a collection of at least one desktop > > that actually works in accordance with our commitment to freedom, > > and its consequent

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 15:14:28 -0600 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > I'm a bit uncertain about that > > > decided. Long story . . .> > > Does it need a default colour? > > Aren't there better things to do? > > > > Of course there are. But those are not things that I can do. I can > do visual

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 20:55:54 + Dave Turner wrote: > >Thankfully the Clearlooks-Phenix-Purpy theme still handles > >synaptic > etc.in jessie. > >We may have to rethink the default desktop in ascii . . . and if > >there > will even be one . .

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 10:49:16 -0600 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Heads up . . . the entire Xfce4 stack is moving to GTK3: > > https://blog.alteroot.org/articles/2016-04-12/road-to-xfce-4.14.html > > golinux Hopefully, the kind of people no-thankyouing systemd started forming migration plans away

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-23 Thread David Hare
Didn't mean to actually suggest TDE for any default nor that the main focus should be other than getting Devuan Jessie ready. XFCE4 is fine (for now). Just pointing out, TDE has an extensive application set (including an office suit) with no need of gtk -anything (they forked qt3 for it) nor

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-23 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Wed, 22 Feb 2017 10:44:53 -0700 Gregory Nowak ha scritto: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:32:48AM +0100, Jochen Fahrner wrote: > > If you want to completely avoid Gtk, you have to go without many > > non-gnome apps like LXDE and Xfce desktop environments, Claws Mail, > >

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-23 Thread golinux
On 2017-02-23 00:58, Jochen Fahrner wrote: Am 23.02.2017 um 00:25 schrieb Hendrik Boom: But it *is* importnt to have a collection of at least one desktop that actually works in accordance with our commitment to freedom, and its consequent configurability. That's right. But does it have to be

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-23 Thread golinux
On 2017-02-23 03:27, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2017 schrieb Jaromil: Golinux has done an outstanding work with the looks of Devuan, starting from the website to finish with the purpy desktop, but we must admit the integration of this part is one of the main reasons we

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-23 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Dr. Nikolaus Klepp (dr.kl...@gmx.at): > As david already pointed out, you could use TDE as default. I appreciated David saying that, and meant to reply that I do apologise for forgetting Trinity Desktop Environment (2010 fork of KDE 3.5), and, if someone here is a Wikipedian, can help

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-23 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Donnerstag, 23. Februar 2017 schrieb Jaromil: > Golinux has done an outstanding work with the looks of Devuan, > starting from the website to finish with the purpy desktop, but we > must admit the integration of this part is one of the main reasons we > are so late, since the Linux desktop has

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-23 Thread Jaromil
yes we are still turtles :^) but at least we are not struggling to catch up with badly designed toolkits. The reasons for our delay in releasing Devuan 1.0 Jessie stable are very different, only one of them explained below: On Thu, 23 Feb 2017, Jochen Fahrner wrote: > Am 23.02.2017 um 00:25

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Jochen Fahrner
Am 23.02.2017 um 00:25 schrieb Hendrik Boom: > But it *is* importnt to have a collection of at least one desktop that > actually works in accordance with our commitment to freedom, and its > consequent configurability. That's right. But does it have to be a complete integrated desktop

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread David Hare
Probably only TDE/TQT.. which almost nobody seems to have noticed. On 22/02/2017, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 08:55:54PM +, Dave Turner wrote: >> >Thankfully the Clearlooks-Phenix-Purpy theme still handles synaptic >> > etc.in >> jessie. >> >We may

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 08:55:54PM +, Dave Turner wrote: > >Thankfully the Clearlooks-Phenix-Purpy theme still handles synaptic etc.in > jessie. > >We may have to rethink the default desktop in ascii . . . and if there will > even be one . . > > I was losing track of who said what when, but

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread golinux
On 2017-02-22 14:55, Dave Turner wrote: Thankfully the Clearlooks-Phenix-Purpy theme still handles synaptic etc.in jessie. We may have to rethink the default desktop in ascii . . . and if there will even be one . . I was losing track of who said what when, but THAT above is what I want to

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Dave Turner
>Thankfully the Clearlooks-Phenix-Purpy theme still handles synaptic etc.in jessie. >We may have to rethink the default desktop in ascii . . . and if there will even be one . . I was losing track of who said what when, but THAT above is what I want to comment on! You have enough to do,

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread golinux
On 2017-02-22 12:55, Rick Moen wrote: Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): Heads up . . . the entire Xfce4 stack is moving to GTK3: https://blog.alteroot.org/articles/2016-04-12/road-to-xfce-4.14.html With lightning speed starting February 2015, I notice.

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > Heads up . . . the entire Xfce4 stack is moving to GTK3: > https://blog.alteroot.org/articles/2016-04-12/road-to-xfce-4.14.html With lightning speed starting February 2015, I notice.

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:32:48AM +0100, Jochen Fahrner wrote: > If you want to completely avoid Gtk, you have to go without many > non-gnome apps like LXDE and Xfce desktop environments, Claws Mail, > AbiWord, Chrome, Firefox, Midori, Pidgin and many more. I'll add orca to that list, given

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread golinux
On 2017-02-22 09:22, aitor_czr wrote: Hi golinux, On 02/22/2017 02:34 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: Hi aitor, The green you used in the Devuan-Green from July last year is closer to leafy - #8FAA00. There is no green even close to the green in your current theme planned for devuan. However

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread aitor_czr
Hi golinux, On 02/22/2017 02:34 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote: On 2017-02-21 17:20, aitor_czr wrote: Hi, I'm working on a new gtk theme, based on the official Adwaita: http://gnuinos.org/Devuan-Green/ [1] Copy the following hidden files: .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini .gtkrc-2.0 to:

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 02:31:32AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Other DEs outside the gtk2-to-gtk3 conundrum: > > KDE: Qt5 > Cinnamon, MATE: gtk3 (to the extent that these are DEs distinct from GNOME3) > Enlightenment & Moksha Desktop: Elementary (from EFL) > Étoilé: GNUstep CDE: Motif --

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2017 schrieb Rick Moen: > Quoting Jochen Fahrner (j...@fahrner.name): > Other DEs outside the gtk2-to-gtk3 conundrum: > > KDE: Qt5 > Cinnamon, MATE: gtk3 (to the extent that these are DEs distinct from GNOME3) > Enlightenment & Moksha Desktop: Elementary (from EFL) >

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Jaromil
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017, Jochen Fahrner wrote: > The next step after "no systemd" should be "no gnome". it isn't a coincidence DNG stands for Devuan is not GNOME ;^) ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Jochen Fahrner (j...@fahrner.name): > Am 22.02.2017 um 10:12 schrieb Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI: > > > > Move from Gtk to Qt ? > > > > > > If you want to completely avoid Gtk, you have to go without many > non-gnome apps like LXDE and Xfce desktop environments, Claws Mail, > AbiWord, Chrome,

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:32:48AM +0100, Jochen Fahrner wrote: > Am 22.02.2017 um 10:12 schrieb Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI: > > > > Move from Gtk to Qt ? > > > > > > If you want to completely avoid Gtk, you have to go without many > non-gnome apps like LXDE and Xfce desktop environments, Claws Mail,

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Jochen Fahrner
Am 22.02.2017 um 10:12 schrieb Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI: > > Move from Gtk to Qt ? > > If you want to completely avoid Gtk, you have to go without many non-gnome apps like LXDE and Xfce desktop environments, Claws Mail, AbiWord, Chrome, Firefox, Midori, Pidgin and many more. Do you really want to

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Ron
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 10:04:07 +0100 Jochen Fahrner wrote: > The next step after "no systemd" should be "no gnome". Move from Gtk to Qt ? Cheers, Ron. -- You're only young once, but you can be immature forever.

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Jochen Fahrner
Am 22.02.2017 um 09:06 schrieb Rick Moen: > > Several of IgnorantGuru's blog posts from around that time speak to the > greatly increased GNOME lock-in that has plagued the gkt+3 series, > in sharp contrast to gtk+2. I totally agree with this problem, and I suffer from it after upgrading my

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): > Unless you live in the past (I've already migrated even production systems > from jessie -- upgrade to stretch is flawless so far), I have bad news: XFCE > has in a good part already migrated to GTK3. Ah. I was just going by postings to the

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 12:06:49AM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > > On 2017-02-21 17:20, aitor_czr wrote: > > > I'm not a fan of anything adwaita but we may not have many choices > > for gtk3 compatible themes going forward. This explains a lot of > >

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-22 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org): > On 2017-02-21 17:20, aitor_czr wrote: > I'm not a fan of anything adwaita but we may not have many choices > for gtk3 compatible themes going forward. This explains a lot of > what's going on: > >

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-21 Thread golinux
On 2017-02-21 17:20, aitor_czr wrote: Hi, I'm working on a new gtk theme, based on the official Adwaita: http://gnuinos.org/Devuan-Green/ [1] Copy the following hidden files: .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini .gtkrc-2.0 to: /root And compare, for example, "synaptic" and "pdfchain" in

[DNG] Gtk3-theme

2017-02-21 Thread aitor_czr
Hi, I'm working on a new gtk theme, based on the official Adwaita: http://gnuinos.org/Devuan-Green/ Copy the following hidden files: .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini .gtkrc-2.0 to: /root And compare, for example, "synaptic" and "pdfchain" in ascii. Cheers, Aitor.