On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 15:30:13 +0800, Brad wrote in message
<56ab1505.7080...@fnarfbargle.com>:
> I've snipped the remainder of your reply because personally I could
> not make head nor tail of what you were on about and it looked like a
> steaming pile of misdirected political
..yeah, quite
On 28/01/16 11:15, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 10:05:08 +0800, Brad wrote in message
<56a97754.7050...@fnarfbargle.com>:
I'm running an early 2015 Macbook Pro. I have OSX, Windows 7 & Linux
installed. I live in Linux, but on the rare occassions I need to boot
into OSX or Win 7 I sim
On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 21:14:42 +0200, Lars wrote in message
<56a91722.2020...@gmail.com>:
> On 01/27/2016 08:53 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> [snip]
> > True story, I had a bad battery such that the instant I pulled
> > out the power supply, the computer turned off. They wouldn't send
> > me a new batter
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 10:05:08 +0800, Brad wrote in message
<56a97754.7050...@fnarfbargle.com>:
> I'm running an early 2015 Macbook Pro. I have OSX, Windows 7 & Linux
> installed. I live in Linux, but on the rare occassions I need to boot
> into OSX or Win 7 I simply s2disk. That way when I re-bo
On 27/01/16 23:57, Simon Hobson wrote:
Wim wrote:
I still have my previous model, I suppose I ought to try a native install on it
- and perhaps see if I can get OS X running as a VM.
I would prefer dual booting personally, since running OSX in a VM isn't always
perfect. Fi, access to extern
Le 26/01/2016 23:47, Didier Kryn a écrit :
I've seen that few years ago on some machines I bought for my job.
I bet it was Dell Poweredge servers. Dell likes to have its own OS
installed for maintenance purpose. If you don't care the maintenance,
you can overwrite it, but why not dual boo
This is my first email here, so...
Hi all! And thanks Devuan.
(And sorry for my bad English.)
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:46:40 +0100
> From: Edward Bartolo
> To: dng
> Subject: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.
>
> [...]
> Call me paranoid but I am noticing big com
Wim wrote:
> I would take a look at that SATA cable AGAIN. These break far too often. And
> when they break, they often don't break completely. Symptoms vary from weird
> boot problems, to the OS going corrupt, to a general slow drive.
No, definitely a "hard" fault. While trying to deal with i
On 01/27/2016 08:53 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
[snip]
> True story, I had a bad battery such that the instant I pulled
> out the power supply, the computer turned off. They wouldn't send me a
> new battery until I did a series of Windows tests.
Which vendor? It would be good to know so as to steer cle
On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 04:49:59 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 05:57:45PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >
> > I heard that M$ is forcing the laptop makers to enable TPM, and
> > prevent it from being disabled, else they aren't allowed to install
> > windows. Having a choice of
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:46:40 +0100
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making
> it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows
> installed.
>
> Are you experiencing the same difficulty and what do you do when you
> n
2016-01-27 16:57 GMT+01:00 Simon Hobson :
> Wim wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > * Yes, the one with the faulty SATA that doesn't like 3gbps drives - you
> try finding a drive these days that has a jumper for 1.5gbps operation :-(
> >
> > You don't need to jumper drives. I've never encountered any drive tha
Wim wrote:
> I still have my previous model, I suppose I ought to try a native install on
> it - and perhaps see if I can get OS X running as a VM.
>
> I would prefer dual booting personally, since running OSX in a VM isn't
> always perfect. Fi, access to external hardware over USB, like audio
Just to clear up a few things:
- The TPM chip on some Mac has never been used. It's my guess that
marketing decided against it, purely for imago problems. There were a lot
of reactions from ordinary users in the style of "I don't want anything on
my Mac that might check if I'm running pirated soft
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 05:57:45PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>
> I heard that M$ is forcing the laptop makers to enable TPM, and
> prevent it from being disabled, else they aren't allowed to install
> windows. Having a choice of OS to install is great, but doesn't TPM
> mean that GNU/Linux can't
Robert Storey wrote:
> So maybe I should ask: Have you tried installing Linux on your MacBook? If
> so, how was the experience? Any advice about that? Any nonsense to deal with
> similar to Microsoft's "secure boot"? (if you answered those questions
> already in another post, I"m sorry, I miss
On 01/27/2016 04:07 AM, Robert Storey wrote:
> Anyway, expensive though it might be, I'd consider a MacBook in the future,
> especially if I could dual-boot it with Linux.
The ones from a few years ago do ok. I don't know about the newer ones,
but I'd assume they'd still run ok. However, I and
dward
On 27/01/2016, Robert Storey wrote:
> Simon Hobson
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Subject: Re: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop
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> Robert Storey wr
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:48:50 +, Simon wrote in message
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> Mitt Green wrote:
>
> > They can request a refund before activating the
> > license, but will actually receive a smaller amount of
> > money than they spent, if some at all at a
Simon Hobson
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Robert Storey wrote:
>> Since the Mac doesn't have a ctrl key, the following w
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:43:40AM -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 07:46:40PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making
> > it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows
> > installed.
>
Robert Storey wrote:
> Since the Mac doesn't have a ctrl key, the following was a particularly
> relevant post:
Really ?
Mine does, there between the fn and alt keys - standard UK keyboard on a
MacBook Pro. I think it will be model/keyboard specific. You can always plug in
a different keyboar
Mitt Green wrote:
> They can request a refund before activating the
> license, but will actually receive a smaller amount of
> money than they spent, if some at all at all.
I recall reading how one person, after a fight to get anything, got much more !
This isn't the case I was thinking of, but
Le 26/01/2016 23:40, Robert Storey a écrit :
With desktop computers, it's not too hard to find one with FreeDos
installed by default, or no OS. Linux usually works fine on these
machines.
I've seen that few years ago on some machines I bought for my job.
I bet it was Dell Poweredge server
With desktop computers, it's not too hard to find one with FreeDos
installed by default, or no OS. Linux usually works fine on these machines.
A few years ago I bought a Toshiba Satellite laptop with FreeDos installed
by default, and it was cheap. No money to Microsoft, and Linux worked like
a cha
Hendrik Boom writes:
[...]
> There seem to be viable ARM processors, and I've even heard mention of
> an ARM laptop; I've had no luck tracking it down. Does anyone else
> know of a source?
Not really a laptop but something I was seriously tempted to buy a
couple of times although I'm decided
Le 26/01/2016 19:18, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
There seem to be viable ARM processors, and I've even heard mention of
an ARM laptop;
I've got a Pi-Top, a laptop built around a Raspberry Pi. It's the
first model, crowd-funded. I wouldn't recommend it. I had very little
time to devote to it bu
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 07:46:40PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making
> it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows
> installed.
>
> Are you experiencing the same difficulty and what do you do when yo
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 07:46:40PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making
> it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows
> installed.
>
> Are you experiencing the same difficulty and what do you do when yo
Hi.
[My first post to this list]
I recently bought a used Dell laptop that had Windows 7 pre-installed
and just completely formatted the hard drive and installed Debian 7 on
it (Before I became aware of this list). It, Debian 7, recognized all
of the hardware without any problems.
I haven't
Dave Turner wrote:
>You buy the laptop with Windows 10 installed
When buying a machine with Windows
pre-installed, a customer pays for Windows as well.
They can request a refund before activating the
license, but will actually receive a smaller amount of
money than they spent, if some at all a
You buy the laptop with Windows 10 installed, make sure everything works
then install the distro of your choice.
No dual-booting.
VeryPC in the UK make small eco-friendly desktops that they are happy to
sell without an OS.
I might get one when the iMac finally breaks.
You could always have a n
2016-01-26 19:46 GMT+01:00, Edward Bartolo :
> Hi All,
>
> Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making
> it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows
> installed.
>
> Are you experiencing the same difficulty and what do you do when you
> need to buy a new
I wrote:
>they offer cheap low-end laptops (well, having 4GB of RAM
is low-end these days).
They have Linux pre-installed, forgot to mention.
I've seen maybe a couple only high-end laptops with
Linux, and they are made by Dell.
So, looking through the market, chances are, you'll
see galore, but
On Tue, 1/26/16, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Subject: [DNG] Purchasing a new computer/laptop.
To: "dng"
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016, 12:46 PM
Hi All,
Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making
it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop witho
We actually have a lot of shops, mostly small, that do their business
in Internet, they offer cheap low-end laptops (well, having 4GB of RAM
is low-end these days).
Dell has own line with Ubuntu pre-installed.
There is also an option to buy one of those Pis, especially Pi Zero,
which is €4/£4/$5.
I mostly build my own computers, as far as my laptop goes I went for good specs
and yes that meant I had to sacrifice and get it preinstalled with windows.
This might be on me, I did notice freedos installations available on slightly
lower spec laptops. It's one of those cost of freedom issues.
Hi All,
Call me paranoid but I am noticing big companies like Microsoft making
it very difficult to buy a computer or laptop without Windows
installed.
Are you experiencing the same difficulty and what do you do when you
need to buy a new machine?
Edward
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