Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-15 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 20:06:02 +0200 Antoine via Dng wrote: > On Wednesday, 14 April at 16:13, tito via Dng wrote: > > > >Hi, > >thanks for your time and effort. My question was rather practical, > >so let me rephrase it: is there a robust way to detect from a script > >if buster non-free and

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-15 Thread Antoine via Dng
On Wednesday, 14 April at 16:13, tito via Dng wrote: Hi, thanks for your time and effort. My question was rather practical, so let me rephrase it: is there a robust way to detect from a script if buster non-free and contrib repos are enabled in /etc/apt/sources.lists so that I can add the same

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-15 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 15/04/2021 à 16:01, Hendrik Boom a écrit : >> Yes, but the end result of enforcing free software purism is a lot of >> those so exposed give up and install Windows. I don't blame them. A few >> times I've found it *really* hard to install when the installer just >> says "you might need nonfree

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-15 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:16:08PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > aitor said on Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:28:59 +0200 > > >Hi Steve, > > > >On 14/4/21 15:02, Steve Litt wrote: > >> I think free software purist snobs drive more people back to > >> Windows than cleanse people of their non-free ways. > >The

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread Steve Litt
aitor said on Wed, 14 Apr 2021 22:28:59 +0200 >Hi Steve, > >On 14/4/21 15:02, Steve Litt wrote: >> I think free software purist snobs drive more people back to >> Windows than cleanse people of their non-free ways. >The adversary of the fsf isn't Windows, but the propietary software in

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread Steve Litt
al3xu5 said on Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:53:59 +0200 >Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 - tito : > > >Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:02:54 -0400 - Steve Litt >: >[ Extra OT comment START > >> Stating it the inverse way, I HATE these installs that bomb because >> there's no FSF-satisfying drivers, firmware or

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread Steve Litt
fsmithred via Dng said on Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:57:38 -0400 >On 4/14/21 9:50 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 09:02:54AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >>> tito via Dng said on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 >>> >>> 2) should non-free and contrib repos be added to sources.list

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
I’m not sure if this is a good way to do it but when Ubuntu is upgraded to a new version the release upgrade tool disables all third-party apt sources and PPA sources by commenting them out in the sources.list/sources.list.d files and notifying the user this has been done. The user then has to

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread aitor
Hi Steve, On 14/4/21 15:02, Steve Litt wrote: I think free software purist snobs drive more people back to Windows than cleanse people of their non-free ways. The adversary of the fsf isn't Windows, but the propietary software in general wherever it may come from. In this context, whether a

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:53:59 +0200 al3xu5 wrote: > Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 - tito : > > > > > Two serious question arise now? > > > > 1) should echo "ALWAYS_SET_PATH true" > /etc/default/su > > be added to the script to restore old su behaviour or > > should that be left

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 16:01:02 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > > > This might be a good one to ask the users. > > > > > fsmithred > > > > > Agreed. > > But if you did want to do it programmatically without parsing every > sources.{d/*,conf}... Ask apt what it is cacheing... > > if [ -n

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread al3xu5
Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 - tito : > Two serious question arise now? > > 1) should echo "ALWAYS_SET_PATH true" > /etc/default/su > be added to the script to restore old su behaviour or > should that be left to the user I think it should be left to the user, using the buster

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread g4sra via Dng
> > This might be a good one to ask the users. > > fsmithred > Agreed. But if you did want to do it programmatically without parsing every sources.{d/*,conf}... Ask apt what it is cacheing... if [ -n "$(apt-cache policy | grep 'buster/non-free')" ]; then echo "yes include non-free

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 4/14/21 10:15 AM, tito wrote: > On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:57:38 -0400 > fsmithred via Dng wrote: > >> >> It's currently opt-out. You must select Expert install to avoid >> non-free and to choose your sources. Something about how the >> installer works makes it easier to do it this way rather

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:57:38 -0400 fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 4/14/21 9:50 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 09:02:54AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > >> tito via Dng said on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 > >> > >> > >>> 2) should non-free and contrib repos be added to

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:50:17 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 09:02:54AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > tito via Dng said on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 > > > > > > >2) should non-free and contrib repos be added to sources.list > > >or should that be left to the user >

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 4/14/21 9:50 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 09:02:54AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >> tito via Dng said on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 >> >> >>> 2) should non-free and contrib repos be added to sources.list >>>or should that be left to the user >> >> I'm not sure whether

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 09:02:54AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > tito via Dng said on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 > > > >2) should non-free and contrib repos be added to sources.list > >or should that be left to the user > > I'm not sure whether my answer is responsive to your question or

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-14 Thread Steve Litt
tito via Dng said on Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:03:02 +0200 >2) should non-free and contrib repos be added to sources.list >or should that be left to the user I'm not sure whether my answer is responsive to your question or not, but here goes... I believe enough non-free and contrib stuff should

Re: [DNG] Script to migrate buster desktop to beowulf v1.6

2021-04-13 Thread tito via Dng
> > > > >V 1.4 > > > > > >now with supported DE's: > > > > > >1) GNOME > > >2) LXDE > > >3) LXQT > > V 1.5 > > now with supported DE's: > > 1) GNOME > 2) LXDE > 3) LXQT > 4) XFCE > > and minor fixes and improvements. > > Ciao, > Tito > v 1.6 now with supported DE's: 1) GNOME 2)