[DNG] Zoom in chromium has no video after I upgraded to chimaera

2021-10-06 Thread Hendrik Boom
I upgraded my laptop to chimaera yesterday. It appears to work normally, and the upgrade was uneventful. However, when using zoom in chromium, I receive no video. Audio works fine. However, not video. The panels where I usually see other people, including the main panel, are just black

Re: [DNG] Zoom via Firefox

2020-10-28 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting d...@d404.nl (d...@d404.nl): > I do not have experience with Zoom but with Jitsi and discovered that > disabling WebRTC leakage in Firefox because of WebRTC leaking ip > addresses also crippled Jitsi. The first comment on this bug is said to address that (even though the bug report is

Re: [DNG] Zoom via Firefox

2020-10-28 Thread d...@d404.nl
On 28-10-2020 12:10, Jim Jackson wrote: > Hi, > > I'm on Devuan Beowulf, running lightdm, openbox and lxpanel. > I don't run pulseaudio, I just use ALSA for sound. > > Firefox sound works for showing videos etc. I have set mixer values so that > I can record > > arecord -vvv -f dat -d 4

Re: [DNG] Zoom via Firefox

2020-10-28 Thread Jim Jackson
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020, ael wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 11:10:18AM +, Jim Jackson wrote: > > > > Firefox sound works for showing videos etc. I have set mixer values so that > > I can record > > > > arecord -vvv -f dat -d 4 /tmp/a.wav > > > > and it plays back. So speakers and

Re: [DNG] Zoom via Firefox

2020-10-28 Thread ael
On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 11:10:18AM +, Jim Jackson wrote: > > Firefox sound works for showing videos etc. I have set mixer values so that > I can record > > arecord -vvv -f dat -d 4 /tmp/a.wav > > and it plays back. So speakers and microphone working. > > I want to run Zoom via Firefox

[DNG] Zoom via Firefox

2020-10-28 Thread Jim Jackson
Hi, I'm on Devuan Beowulf, running lightdm, openbox and lxpanel. I don't run pulseaudio, I just use ALSA for sound. Firefox sound works for showing videos etc. I have set mixer values so that I can record arecord -vvv -f dat -d 4 /tmp/a.wav and it plays back. So speakers and microphone

Re: [DNG] Zoom? Rather not...

2020-08-09 Thread Marjorie Roome via Dng
On Thu, 2020-08-06 at 01:00 +0200, marc...@welz.org.za wrote: > The concern about using any gratis commercial videoconferencing > service is that quite a bit of biometric information can be > collected from you - in particular your voice and your face. > Your personal files are just a bonus. >

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-09 Thread Marjorie Roome via Dng
On Wed, 2020-08-05 at 15:39 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > I've installed the .deb file on my bewowulf 3 deskotop. It seems > like it would work. I'll give it try next time ther is a zoom > meeting. > If you go into settings you should be able to see if zoom is connecting to your webcam (see

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-09 Thread Marjorie Roome via Dng
On Wed, 2020-08-05 at 15:39 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > I've installed the .deb file on my bewowulf 3 deskotop. It seems > like it would work. I'll give it try next time ther is a zoom > meeting. > > Incidenttally is there a public site that one can use to test zoom? > > I gave up trying to

Re: [DNG] Zoom? Rather not...

2020-08-06 Thread tempforever
marc wrote: >> For me security refers primarily to file access. This takes me back to >> my question. If I craete a new user, named zoom for example, and have >> it run zoom, won't that limit access files on my HD? > > Yes, under two conditions: > > - your other users (holding confidential

Re: [DNG] Zoom? Rather not...

2020-08-06 Thread marc
> I'm a product of the Great > Depresssion, and so security for me fixates on political snooping. I'm > less concerned about being ripped off than looming fascism. I'm not > suggsting your concern is not important, jut that it is not the same > as my own. My concerns relate to both of those.

Re: [DNG] Zoom? Rather not...

2020-08-06 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting ael (adrian.lawre...@physics.oxon.org): > One hopes so. But I had to install the zoom deb package via root. > Since it is closed source, who knows what the package might do? I hope you know that 'ar vx $THING.deb' unpacks $THING.deb in place, without installing it. Doing that gives you

Re: [DNG] Zoom? Rather not...

2020-08-06 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 6 Aug 2020, at 20:52, Haines Brown wrote: > > For me security refers primarily to file access. This takes me back to > my question. If I craete a new user, named zoom for example, and have > it run zoom, won't that limit access files on my HD? With the dpkg-deb utility you can extract

Re: [DNG] Zoom? Rather not...

2020-08-06 Thread Joril via Dng
Hello, On 06/08/20 15:27, ael wrote: Actually zoom does offer a tarball for download, so that can be checked and so is safer than a closed deb. Well if you want you can inspect debs too, Midnight commander even provides a "virtual filesystem" implementation for it Bye!

Re: [DNG] Zoom? Rather not...

2020-08-06 Thread ael
On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 02:23:04PM +0100, ael wrote: > On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 06:52:06AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > For me security refers primarily to file access. This takes me back to > > my question. If I craete a new user, named zoom for example, and have > > it run zoom, won't that

Re: [DNG] Zoom? Rather not...

2020-08-06 Thread ael
On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 06:52:06AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > For me security refers primarily to file access. This takes me back to > my question. If I craete a new user, named zoom for example, and have > it run zoom, won't that limit access files on my HD? One hopes so. But I had to

Re: [DNG] Zoom? Rather not...

2020-08-06 Thread Haines Brown
Marc, your insights much appreciated. Interesting, though, is a certain generation gap. Security these days seems to refer to personal information that evil doers can exploit to deprive you of your poions. I'm a product of the Great Depresssion, and so security for me fixates on political

Re: [DNG] Zoom? Rather not...

2020-08-05 Thread golinux
On 2020-08-05 18:00, marc...@welz.org.za wrote: I understand the security advantages of using zoom on a laptop not much used for anything else. I suppose the sercurity conern is files being accessible to intruders. Someone made the interesting suggestion of settin up a new account just for zoom.

Re: [DNG] Zoom? Rather not...

2020-08-05 Thread marcxdv
> I understand the security advantages of using zoom on a laptop not > much used for anything else. I suppose the sercurity conern is files > being accessible to intruders. Someone made the interesting suggestion > of settin up a new account just for zoom. The concern about using any gratis

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-05 Thread Haines Brown
On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 10:17:26PM +0100, ael wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 03:39:53PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 01:34:59PM +0100, ael wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 07:58:26PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > > > I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-05 Thread ael
On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 03:39:53PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 01:34:59PM +0100, ael wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 07:58:26PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > > I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian. But there's a > > > problem with it and I want to

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-05 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 03:39:53PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > I should mention the the problem running zoom on my laptop (Thknkpad > X250). After a short shile (a few minutes) I loose outgoing sound. I > have video and sound in, but sound out out stops. I do nothing to the > machine during

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-05 Thread Haines Brown
On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 01:34:59PM +0100, ael wrote: > On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 07:58:26PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > > I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian. But there's a > > problem with it and I want to install zoom on beowulf 3. > > > > But there's no zoom in the beowulf

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-05 Thread Simon Hobson
Steve Litt wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 08:28:12 +1000 > Ozi Traveller via Dng wrote: > >> Yes that is the reason for teams. > > > What do you mean by "that"? He'd be referring to my comment : >>> That's fine if anyone you want to chat with also uses Teams. Presumably he's

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-05 Thread Lars Noodén via Dng
On 8/4/20 3:58 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: [...]> Normally, I use the Zoom app on my Android tablet, where I keep no > critical information. If video is not needed, then consider using Mumble [1]. It is exceptionally easy to set up, both from the client perspective and the user perspective. There

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 08:28:12 +1000 Ozi Traveller via Dng wrote: > Yes that is the reason for teams. What do you mean by "that"? > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 6:05 PM Simon Hobson > wrote: > > > Haines Brown wrote: > > > > > I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian.

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-04 Thread Ozi Traveller via Dng
Yes that is the reason for teams. On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 6:05 PM Simon Hobson wrote: > Haines Brown wrote: > > > I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian. But there's a > > problem with it and I want to install zoom on beowulf 3. > > > > But there's no zoom in the beowulf

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-04 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 07:58:26PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian. But there's a > problem with it and I want to install zoom on beowulf 3. > > But there's no zoom in the beowulf repository. Do I have to download > debian's zoom .deb? > I

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-04 Thread ael
On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 07:58:26PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian. But there's a > problem with it and I want to install zoom on beowulf 3. > > But there's no zoom in the beowulf repository. Do I have to download > debian's zoom .deb? There

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-04 Thread Simon Hobson
Haines Brown wrote: > I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian. But there's a > problem with it and I want to install zoom on beowulf 3. > > But there's no zoom in the beowulf repository. Do I have to download > debian's zoom .deb? Or download direct from Zoom's website. I

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! No need to CC me. Ozi Traveller - 04.08.20, 06:55:48 CEST: > I have it on an isolated laptop! And I don't care what happens to it! That of course is the best isolation you can get. Ciao, -- Martin ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-03 Thread Ozi Traveller via Dng
I've switched to teams. On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 2:55 PM Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Martin Steigerwald - 04.08.20, 06:46:11 CEST: > > If you use the Debian package, or even with the Flatpak, you can setup > > up a different use or use a VM, to contain the application. For now I > > a different

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Martin Steigerwald - 04.08.20, 06:54:06 CEST: > I also installed Rocket.Chat through Flatpak and there I was able that > I am not able to track files into the chat client from directories *drag* > that are *not* allowed for the app. Its error message was less than > helpful, but the app

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-03 Thread Ozi Traveller via Dng
I have it on an isolated laptop! And I don't care what happens to it! On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 2:54 PM Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Ozi Traveller via Dng - 04.08.20, 06:00:43 CEST: > > Yes use the debian deb I have it running on devuan. > > > > or > > > > try the web client > > > >

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Martin Steigerwald - 04.08.20, 06:46:11 CEST: > If you use the Debian package, or even with the Flatpak, you can setup > up a different use or use a VM, to contain the application. For now I a different user > rely on what Flatpak can do, but a different user or a VM of course > gives stronger

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Ozi Traveller via Dng - 04.08.20, 06:00:43 CEST: > Yes use the debian deb I have it running on devuan. > > or > > try the web client > > https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/214629443-Zoom-web-client I'd avoid using the web client. At least with a browser that is not specifically set up

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Martin Steigerwald - 04.08.20, 06:34:22 CEST: > Haines Brown - 04.08.20, 01:58:26 CEST: > > I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian. But there's a > > problem with it and I want to install zoom on beowulf 3. > > > > But there's no zoom in the beowulf repository. Do I have to

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi. Haines Brown - 04.08.20, 01:58:26 CEST: > I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian. But there's a > problem with it and I want to install zoom on beowulf 3. > > But there's no zoom in the beowulf repository. Do I have to download > debian's zoom .deb? I used flatpak to install

Re: [DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-03 Thread Ozi Traveller via Dng
Yes use the debian deb I have it running on devuan. or try the web client https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/214629443-Zoom-web-client Ozi On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 9:58 AM Haines Brown wrote: > I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian. But there's a > problem with it and I

[DNG] Zoom?

2020-08-03 Thread Haines Brown
I've been relying on zoom on a laptop runnding debian. But there's a problem with it and I want to install zoom on beowulf 3. But there's no zoom in the beowulf repository. Do I have to download debian's zoom .deb? -- Haines Brown ___ Dng