On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 09:21:03AM +0200, Anto wrote:
> Hello Isaac,
>
> After reading http://sources.debian.net/src/dpkg/1.18.1/doc/triggers.txt/
> (over and over), it looks that dpkg-trigger is a better solution than
> monitoring /etc/init.d using inotify(). However, I still fail to understand
>
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:25:28AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
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>
> What you say above is true. And what you say above is a catastrophe,
> because sysvinit scripts are so crazy complicated that it's useless for
> a mere mortal to understand them. The same is true of OpenRC init
> scripts.
May
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:09:32 +
Roger Leigh wrote:
> On 16/06/2015 19:47, Anto wrote:
> > On 16/06/15 20:42, Roger Leigh wrote:
> >> On 16/06/2015 18:14, Anto wrote:
> >>> I was not really sure if script similar to update-rc.d would be
> >>> relevant to epoch as the way the runlevel is being m
On 17/06/15 11:09, Roger Leigh wrote:
On 16/06/2015 19:47, Anto wrote:
Thanks a lot Roger for your explanation.
However, I still fail understand how to implement what you explained
without changing anything on any other packages that have daemons to be
managed by epoch. As I mentioned on one
On 16/06/2015 19:47, Anto wrote:
On 16/06/15 20:42, Roger Leigh wrote:
On 16/06/2015 18:14, Anto wrote:
I was not really sure if script similar to update-rc.d would be relevant
to epoch as the way the runlevel is being managed in epoch is different
from sysvinit. That is why I am looking for ot
On 16/06/15 20:14, Anto wrote:
On 16/06/15 16:40, Isaac Dunham wrote:
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:09:43AM +0200, Anto wrote:
On 16/06/15 10:58, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
Anto writes:
Yes. I almost have everything to start trying to build epoch package,
*except* one important point that I ha
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:42:37AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 07:40:18AM -0700, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> > But watching for file creation seems like a case of refusing to work
> > with the package manager.
>
> Not quite... it lets you reread them if the sysadmin moodifies th
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:45:55AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 05:34:49PM +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> > Anto writes:
> > >So I am not really sure what you meant by "reading the new
> > >directives at boot time". Which directive would that be, where is
> > >it located a
On 16/06/15 20:42, Roger Leigh wrote:
On 16/06/2015 18:14, Anto wrote:
I was not really sure if script similar to update-rc.d would be relevant
to epoch as the way the runlevel is being managed in epoch is different
from sysvinit. That is why I am looking for other options.
update-rc.d is an
On 16/06/2015 18:14, Anto wrote:
I was not really sure if script similar to update-rc.d would be relevant
to epoch as the way the runlevel is being managed in epoch is different
from sysvinit. That is why I am looking for other options.
update-rc.d is an *interface* to update service registrati
On 16/06/15 16:40, Isaac Dunham wrote:
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:09:43AM +0200, Anto wrote:
On 16/06/15 10:58, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
Anto writes:
Yes. I almost have everything to start trying to build epoch package,
*except* one important point that I have been asking for. That is the
me
On 16/06/15 18:34, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
Anto writes:
So I am not really sure what you meant by "reading the new directives
at boot time". Which directive would that be, where is it located and
which package provides that?
You read things like
# Provides
and
# Required-Start
to gener
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 05:34:49PM +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> Anto writes:
> >So I am not really sure what you meant by "reading the new
> >directives at boot time". Which directive would that be, where is
> >it located and which package provides that?
>
> You read things like
>
> # Provid
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 07:40:18AM -0700, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> But watching for file creation seems like a case of refusing to work
> with the package manager.
Not quite... it lets you reread them if the sysadmon moodifies them.
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Anto writes:
So I am not really sure what you meant by "reading the new
directives at boot time". Which directive would that be, where
is it located and which package provides that?
You read things like
# Provides
and
# Required-Start
to generate an Epoch configuration in /etc/epoch.co
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:09:43AM +0200, Anto wrote:
>
>
> On 16/06/15 10:58, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> >Anto writes:
> >>Yes. I almost have everything to start trying to build epoch package,
> >>*except* one important point that I have been asking for. That is the
> >>mechanism to trigger an ac
Le 16/06/2015 11:09, Anto a écrit :
Anto writes:
Yes. I almost have everything to start trying to build epoch package,
*except* one important point that I have been asking for. That is the
mechanism to trigger an action to automatically update epoch.conf and
start the daemon when we install al
On 16/06/15 12:27, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
Come to think of it... If you read init.d anyway, why not read it at
boot time if a new directive is set, e.g. apply-lsb-instructions=true?
Arnt
Thanks a lot Arnt,
Please do not assume that I am a hardcore programmer or a hardcore
UNIX/Linux admi
Come to think of it... If you read init.d anyway, why not read it at
boot time if a new directive is set, e.g.
apply-lsb-instructions=true?
Arnt
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On 16/06/15 10:58, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
Anto writes:
Yes. I almost have everything to start trying to build epoch package,
*except* one important point that I have been asking for. That is the
mechanism to trigger an action to automatically update epoch.conf and
start the daemon when we i
Anto writes:
Yes. I almost have everything to start trying to build epoch
package, *except* one important point that I have been asking
for. That is the mechanism to trigger an action to automatically
update epoch.conf and start the daemon when we install all
packages with daemons that need to
On 16/06/15 02:10, Steve Litt wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:48:00 +0200
Anto wrote:
I am not entirely sure what would happen if we purged sysvinit to
replace it with epoch, whether those packages will still generate
their specific scripts on /etc/init.d when we install them under
epoch or no
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:48:00 +0200
Anto wrote:
> I am not entirely sure what would happen if we purged sysvinit to
> replace it with epoch, whether those packages will still generate
> their specific scripts on /etc/init.d when we install them under
> epoch or not. If they would still generate t
On 15/06/15 16:23, Steve Litt wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:42:53 +0200
Anto wrote:
On 15/06/15 02:41, Steve Litt wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 00:36:34 +0200
Anto wrote:
There is one thing that annoys me due to epoch only has a singe
configuration file. I think you have done a lot more r
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 08:42:53 +0200
Anto wrote:
>
>
> On 15/06/15 02:41, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 00:36:34 +0200
> > Anto wrote:
> >
> >
> >> There is one thing that annoys me due to epoch only has a singe
> >> configuration file. I think you have done a lot more research on
>
On 15/06/15 02:41, Steve Litt wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 00:36:34 +0200
Anto wrote:
There is one thing that annoys me due to epoch only has a singe
configuration file. I think you have done a lot more research on
epoch so perhaps you could answer this. Is there any mechanism to
automaticall
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 00:36:34 +0200
Anto wrote:
> There is one thing that annoys me due to epoch only has a singe
> configuration file. I think you have done a lot more research on
> epoch so perhaps you could answer this. Is there any mechanism to
> automatically manage applications that we wa
On 14/06/15 23:19, Steve Litt wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:39:51 +0200
Anto wrote:
On 14/06/15 21:43, Steve Litt wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:18:48 +0200
Anto wrote:
And the second one
is I would like to be able to easily switch back and forth between
epoch and sysvinit for testing pur
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 22:39:51 +0200
Anto wrote:
>
>
> On 14/06/15 21:43, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:18:48 +0200
> > Anto wrote:
> >> And the second one
> >> is I would like to be able to easily switch back and forth between
> >> epoch and sysvinit for testing purpose, so that
On 14/06/15 21:43, Steve Litt wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:18:48 +0200
Anto wrote:
The main reasons I am looking for Debian build script are that, first
of all I want to learn a lot more about packaging.
I think you're going to have to *create* that Debian build script. I
fear it doesn'
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:18:48 +0200
Anto wrote:
> The main reasons I am looking for Debian build script are that, first
> of all I want to learn a lot more about packaging.
I think you're going to have to *create* that Debian build script. I
fear it doesn't exist.
> And the second one
> is I
On 14/06/15 17:34, Steve Litt wrote:
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 09:57:12 +0200
Anto wrote:
On 13/06/15 23:35, Hendrik Boom wrote:
The maintainer of epoch has just asked for feature requests.
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/13/198222/ask-slashdot-feature-requests-for-epoch-init-system-130
-
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 09:57:12 +0200
Anto wrote:
>
> On 13/06/15 23:35, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > The maintainer of epoch has just asked for feature requests.
> >
> > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/13/198222/ask-slashdot-feature-requests-for-epoch-init-system-130
> >
> > -- hendrik
>
> I alw
On 13/06/15 23:35, Hendrik Boom wrote:
The maintainer of epoch has just asked for feature requests.
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/13/198222/ask-slashdot-feature-requests-for-epoch-init-system-130
-- hendrik
I always want to try epoch init system since I read Steve's howto about
it o
The maintainer of epoch has just asked for feature requests.
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/13/198222/ask-slashdot-feature-requests-for-epoch-init-system-130
-- hendrik
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