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Am So den 14. Jan 2018 um 0:17 schrieb Adam Borowski:
> But, what is your reason to run a _laptop_ this old? I expect these to be
> barely functional.
Well, why to buy a new one when the old is good and fast and have proper
interfaces (like V
Am Sonntag, 14. Januar 2018 schrieb Adam Borowski:
> But, what is your reason to run a _laptop_ this old? I expect these to be
> barely functional.
X60 and T60 with libreboot are quite a good thing, as 5 seconds from poweroff
to TDE is something that has to be beaten. These devices are still way
On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 11:06:34PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 12:17:46AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> >
> > And, in the recent KPTI (Meltdown, Spectre) massive workfest, I recall just
> > a single remark about 32-bit x86, which pretty much said that there are no
> > fixe
On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 12:17:46AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> And, in the recent KPTI (Meltdown, Spectre) massive workfest, I recall just
> a single remark about 32-bit x86, which pretty much said that there are no
> fixes for these issues, and mitigating them is not on anyone's priority.
>
On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 10:51:39PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> I have a rather strange behavior recently with suspend.
>
> I usually suspend all my laptops to ram. I have two laptops, one with
> custom kernel (4.14.12) and one with the usual ascii kernel
> 4.14.0-3-686-pae (now). Both are ascii a
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Hi,
I have a rather strange behavior recently with suspend.
I usually suspend all my laptops to ram. I have two laptops, one with
custom kernel (4.14.12) and one with the usual ascii kernel
4.14.0-3-686-pae (now). Both are ascii and both are 32bit.
Adam Borowski schrieb am 25.07.2016 um 23:05:
>> Devuan 1.0 ships with upower 0.9.23. AFAIK newer daemon versions only
>> support systemd-based installations.
>
> I believe checking power levels does still work in 0.99, although I can't
> check right now (my only laptop is a flaky piece of arm wit
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 23:05:35 +0200, Adam wrote in message
<20160725210535.gc15...@angband.pl>:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 07:39:58AM +0200, Klaus Fuerstberger wrote:
> > Arnt Karlsen schrieb am 25.07.2016 um 00:18:
> > > ..I'm on ascii with daemon-version: 0.99.4, and it's been stuck
> > > there
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 07:39:58AM +0200, Klaus Fuerstberger wrote:
> Arnt Karlsen schrieb am 25.07.2016 um 00:18:
> > ..I'm on ascii with daemon-version: 0.99.4, and it's been stuck
> > there for a few months, do I need to downgrade or some such?
>
> Devuan 1.0 ships with upower 0.9.23. AFAIK n
On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 07:39:58 +0200, Klaus wrote in message
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> Arnt Karlsen schrieb am 25.07.2016 um 00:18:
> > ..I'm on ascii with daemon-version: 0.99.4, and it's been stuck
> > there for a few months, do I need to downgrade or some such?
>
> De
Arnt Karlsen schrieb am 25.07.2016 um 00:18:
> ..I'm on ascii with daemon-version: 0.99.4, and it's been stuck
> there for a few months, do I need to downgrade or some such?
Devuan 1.0 ships with upower 0.9.23. AFAIK newer daemon versions only
support systemd-based installations.
Klaus
On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 09:26:05 +0200, Klaus wrote in message
:
> Hello,
>
> i want to bring back this thread about suspend / hiberante not working
> with KDE.
>
> In the meanwhile i did a fresh Devuan installation and get no suspend
> and hibernate menu entries in the KDE menu as a normal user.
>
Hello,
i want to bring back this thread about suspend / hiberante not working
with KDE.
In the meanwhile i did a fresh Devuan installation and get no suspend
and hibernate menu entries in the KDE menu as a normal user.
When I do a graphical login as root (for testing), I get the hibernate
menu e
Hello Florian,
Florian Zieboll schrieb am 28.06.2016 um 10:42:
> out of curiosity I just added task-kde-desktop to my desktop computer
> and interestingly, on my main account hibernation worked fine, while
> at first the guest account didn't show the menu entries at all - no
> relevant entries in
On Tue, 28 Jun 2016 06:33:27 +0200
Klaus Fuerstberger wrote:
> So my question is, if it is generally possible to have
> suspend/hibernate working with Devuan and KDE?
Hallo Klaus,
out of curiosity I just added task-kde-desktop to my desktop computer
and interestingly, on my main account hibern
Hello Florian,
Florian Zieboll schrieb am 27.06.2016 um 12:03:
>> How can I get suspend /hibernate working?
> perhaps the output of
> $ apt-get --simulate --no-install-recommends install task-kde-desktop
>
> will narrow down the list of possibly missing candidates... OTOH, If you
> think of a c
On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:46:07 +0200
Klaus Fuerstberger wrote:
> Everything is running fine except suspend and hibernate. The menu
> entries are not available in KDE.
>
> The following maybe related packages are installed:
>
> ii libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd64 0.105-9+devuan1
> ii libpolkit-backe
Hello Florian,
Florian Zieboll schrieb am 26.06.2016 um 17:20:
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:46:07 +0200
> Klaus Fuerstberger wrote:
>> The following maybe related packages are installed:
>>
>> ii libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd64 0.105-9+devuan1
>> ii libpolkit-backend-1-0:amd64 0.105-9+devuan1
>> ii
On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:46:07 +0200
Klaus Fuerstberger wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I try to migrate an existing Debian Jessie installation (for now in a
> virtual machine) to Devuan and did the following:
>
> apt-get install sysvinit-core sysvinit-utils
> apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove systemd
>
Hello,
I try to migrate an existing Debian Jessie installation (for now in a
virtual machine) to Devuan and did the following:
apt-get install sysvinit-core sysvinit-utils
apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove systemd
Replaced sources.list with:
deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie mai
Le 14/05/2016 17:28, emnin...@riseup.net a écrit :
Suspend to ram (done by xfce powermanagement) soft blocks wifi. After a
suspend (to ram) i have to do a 'sudo rfkill unblock wifi' to reconnect.
Maybe you need to install ifplugd and play with its configuration.
Didier
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Suspend to ram (done by xfce powermanagement) soft blocks wifi. After a
suspend (to ram) i have to do a 'sudo rfkill unblock wifi' to reconnect.
I also tried with a little script i made for tinycorelinux to suspend
to ram:
#!/bin/sh
xscreensaver-command -lock &
sleep 3 && sudo su "root" -c "e
On 04/12/2016 08:44 PM, Simon Walter wrote:
>
> On 2016/04/13 3:03, Jaromil wrote:
>> Now if you like this project to thrive then please lower the
>> aggression you also recognize as disruptive in other projects. Let go,
>> ignore what is not interesting. Noone here needs an expert to give an
>> o
On Wed, 4/13/16, Steve Litt wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] suspend
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2016, 10:23 AM
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:04:40 + (UTC)
Trond Arild Ydersbond wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if two new lists could be helpful, in addition to what i
On 2016/04/14 0:43, Rowland Penny wrote:
On 13/04/16 16:36, hellekin wrote:
On 04/13/2016 12:44 AM, Simon Walter wrote:
I don't mean that we have to be PC about everything, but
"to be PC"? Err, what?
Can you expand the acronym if that doesn't mean Personal Computer?
==
hk
Allow me , 'P
Steve Litt writes:
> Trond Arild Ydersbond wrote:
>> I wonder if two new lists could be helpful, in addition to what is
>> planned:
[...]
>> Then it would be easier to filter on a per topic, rather than per
>> user basis?
>
> Splitting a mailing list greatly reduces its power as a meeting of t
Correct. The hibernation image would be for the old kernel, and on the next
boot, the new kernel would choke on it, effectively making it an unclean
shutdown.
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:22 AM Steve Litt
wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 12:20:49 +0200
> richard lucassen wrote:
>
>
> > Beware of kern
On 13/04/16 16:36, hellekin wrote:
On 04/13/2016 12:44 AM, Simon Walter wrote:
I don't mean that we have to be PC about everything, but
"to be PC"? Err, what?
Can you expand the acronym if that doesn't mean Personal Computer?
==
hk
Allow me , 'PC' in that context would be 'Politically Co
On 04/13/2016 12:44 AM, Simon Walter wrote:
>
> I don't mean that we have to be PC about everything, but
>
"to be PC"? Err, what?
Can you expand the acronym if that doesn't mean Personal Computer?
==
hk
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 12:20:49 +0200
richard lucassen wrote:
> Beware of kernel changes, do not hibernate after a kernel change.
Can I safely assume you mean don't hybernate after a new kernel which
I've never before booted to?
Thanks,
SteveT
Steve Litt
April 2016 featured book: Rapid Learni
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 08:04:40 + (UTC)
Trond Arild Ydersbond wrote:
> +1
>
> I wonder if two new lists could be helpful, in addition to what is
> planned:
>
>
> 1. dng-oppftopic - for the rants, systemd general stuff,
> debian-related, public discussions
>
>about Linux etc etc
> 2. d
On 04/13/2016 01:24 PM, shraptor wrote:
Not me, I think he has knowledge and some interesting comments
Me too.
Aitor.
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 11:47:10 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
> > hibernate:
> >
> > echo disk > /sys/power/state
> >
> > suspend:
> >
> > echo mem > /sys/power/state
>
> Which is more or less what pm-suspend and pm-hibernate do, in a clean
> way, and allowing to set personalised hooks.
ok, thnx, I'll h
Steve Litt writes:
> Go Linux wrote:
>> There is a good reason that I have had Rainer's posts filtered
>> directly to delete for many months.
>
> Me too.
Since this has now reached my indirectly, there's also a good reason for
this:
(("from"
("goli...@yahoo.com" - nil s))
(decay 735942)
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:20:49PM +0200, richard lucassen wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 21:27:40 -0400
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > How can I achieve each condition from the command prompt?
>
> hibernate:
>
> echo disk > /sys/power/state
>
> suspend:
>
> echo mem > /sys/power/state
>
Which is
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 21:27:40 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> How can I achieve each condition from the command prompt?
hibernate:
echo disk > /sys/power/state
suspend:
echo mem > /sys/power/state
> If I achieve each condition from the command prompt, how do I "wake
> up" the computer when I'm read
+1
I wonder if two new lists could be helpful, in addition to what is planned:
1. dng-oppftopic - for the rants, systemd general stuff, debian-related,
public discussions
about Linux etc etc
2. dng-users- for support, discussion of more special issues, toy projects
that
are not
Le 13/04/2016 09:33, shraptor a écrit :
On 2016-04-13 02:13, Steve Litt wrote:
There is a good reason that I have had Rainer's posts filtered
directly to delete for many months.
Me too.
Not me, I think he has knowledge and some interesting comments
although there is some ranting in between
On 2016-04-13 02:13, Steve Litt wrote:
There is a good reason that I have had Rainer's posts filtered
directly to delete for many months.
Me too.
Not me, I think he has knowledge and some interesting comments
although there is some ranting in between
So none of this kerfuffle
reached my
On 13/04/16 09:27, Steve Litt wrote:
Hi all,
What's the difference between suspend and hybernate?
How can I achieve each condition from the command prompt?
If I achieve each condition from the command prompt, how do I "wake up"
the computer when I'm ready to use it again?
In practical terms
Hi all,
What's the difference between suspend and hybernate?
How can I achieve each condition from the command prompt?
If I achieve each condition from the command prompt, how do I "wake up"
the computer when I'm ready to use it again?
Thanks,
SteveT
Steve Litt
April 2016 featured book: Rapi
On 2016/04/13 3:03, Jaromil wrote:
Now if you like this project to thrive then please lower the
aggression you also recognize as disruptive in other projects. Let go,
ignore what is not interesting. Noone here needs an expert to give an
opinion on every topic, even if mistakes are made. Even a
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 18:12:21 + (UTC)
Go Linux wrote:
>
> There is a good reason that I have had Rainer's posts filtered
> directly to delete for many months.
Me too.
> So none of this kerfuffle
> reached my inbox.
Nor my inbox
> Others can of course do the same so Rainer can
> rant
On 04/12/2016 07:26 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
looking for a systemd-free upgrade path for my work computer
https://foss.rs/threads/trios-mia-openrc-zfs.3057/
:)
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Arnt Gulbrandsen writes:
> Rainer Weikusat writes:
>> ... their OT posts / trolls / rants / 'news' items for just
>> one month.
>
> It would be nice to have a bit less blahblah about random
> systemd-related topics and a bit more about devuan. I've more or less
> phased out from the list because o
On Tue, 4/12/16, Jaromil wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] suspend
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 12:17 PM
> dear Rainer,
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>> Ehh ... you do realize that - for as long as people [...]
> I don't understand t
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> - I don't have so much spare time that I could seriously work on
> something I don't need myself for 'street creds' alone (1
> day off per week, 51 weeks of work per year and on this
> schedule since 2003)
ok, same
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> It would be nice to have a bit less blahblah about random
> systemd-related topics and a bit more about devuan. I've more or
> less phased out from the list because of that, actually.
I hear you, others have also pointed this.
I recommend then movin
Rainer Weikusat writes:
... their OT posts / trolls / rants / 'news' items for just
one month.
It would be nice to have a bit less blahblah about random systemd-related
topics and a bit more about devuan. I've more or less phased out from the
list because of that, actually.
Arnt
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Rainer Weikusat wrote:
Yenta or Yente (Yiddish: יענטאַ) is a Yiddish designation for a woman
who
is a gossip or busybody
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yenta
I don't think this was supposed to be a compliment.
But I don't think he thought of insulting someone...
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
Ehh ... you do realize that - for as long as people like Mr Baum keeps
posting his entirely pointless insults or the person hiding behind the
moniker "GoLinux" keeps expatiating her inability to understand that
she's not the center of the universe and that the overwhelming
Jaromil writes:
> dear Rainer,
>
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>> Ehh ... you do realize that - for as long as people [...]
>
> I don't understand the origin of your frustration nor appreciate the
> fact you are driving ad-personam attacks here, this being the main
> reason why I'm
Rainer Weikusat writes:
[...]
> the chances that anybody would willingly endure this sorrily
> typical "open source ***-fest" are terribly low?
Elaborating a little on this: I'm subscribed to this list because I'm
looking for a systemd-free upgrade path for my work computer (presumably
within t
dear Rainer,
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Ehh ... you do realize that - for as long as people [...]
I don't understand the origin of your frustration nor appreciate the
fact you are driving ad-personam attacks here, this being the main
reason why I'm writing this on-list.
What
On Tue, 4/12/16, Boruch Baum wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] suspend
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 2:38 AM
No polkit but I did find these in /var/log/dpkg.log :
policykit-1:i386 0.105-9+devuan1
policykit-1-gnome:i386 0.105-2
Jaromil writes:
> On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Boruch Baum wrote:
[...]
>> I'll sweeten the deal: If the list doesn't match the challenge, I'll
>> still do it if the 'usual' yentas on the list (you know who you are) can
>> keep a lid on their OT posts / trolls / rants / 'news' items for just
>> one mont
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016, Boruch Baum wrote:
> You're welcome. GoLinux's response may indicate that my problem is
> NOT due to polkit. I'll explain in my response to him after I finish
> writing this.
I don't think she cares a lot about restating it every time, however
Golinux is a woman.
> OK. I'll
On Tue, 4/12/16, Boruch Baum wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] suspend
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 2:38 AM
> I'm assuming that when you installed devuan, you asked the installer to
> install a desktop environment.
>
Yes, XFCE took care of everything. H
On 04/12/2016 08:41 AM, Mitt Green wrote:
> Boruch Baum wrote:
>> No improvement.
>
> This requires, certainly, consolekit to be installed
Check. But see below, final paragraph.
> and. xinitrc with "startxfce4 --with-ck-launch"
Hmm. I've got "exec ck-launch-session dbus-launch startxfce4". Betwe
Boruch Baum wrote:
> No improvement.
This requires, certainly, consolekit
to be installed and. xinitrc with
"startxfce4 --with-ck-launch"
I don't have an opportunity to
try myself, as I dumped Xfce
a quarter ago in favour of Openbox
and then dwm, but the shenanigans
I'm sending were sent by me
e
No improvement.
On 04/12/2016 01:32 AM, Mitt Green wrote:
> Boruch Baum wrote:
>
>> I don't yet have a working solution for 'switch-users',
>> 'shutdown', or 'restart'.
>
> Try these:
> create /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/consolekit.pkla and with the
> content:
>
> --
>
On 04/12/2016 01:32 AM, Mitt Green wrote:
> Boruch Baum wrote:
>
>> I don't yet have a working solution for 'switch-users',
>> 'shutdown', or 'restart'.
>
> Try these:
Thanks, Mitt. I had tried those earlier (along with the parallel actions
ending with "-multiple-users", to no avail. However, I
On 04/12/2016 01:36 AM, Go Linux wrote:
> On Mon, 4/11/16, Boruch Baum wrote:
> On 04/11/2016 09:40 PM, Go Linux wrote:
On Mon, 4/11/16, Boruch Baum wrote:
Upon adding a GUI on top of a pre-existing cli-only install of
devuan-alpha-4, the functionality of suspend, hibernate, switc
On 04/12/2016 02:27 AM, Jaromil wrote:
>
> I have created an issue to keep track of the ongoing research
>
> https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/policykit-1/issues/5
>
> thanks!
You're welcome. GoLinux's response may indicate that my problem is NOT
due to polkit. I'll explain in my response t
I have created an issue to keep track of the ongoing research
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/policykit-1/issues/5
thanks!
please consider contributing this sort of issues to gitlab issues as
it really helps organizing tasks for developers. Debating in email is
fine, but then someone nee
On Mon, 4/11/16, Boruch Baum wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] suspend
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Monday, April 11, 2016, 11:48 PM
On 04/11/2016 09:40 PM, Go Linux wrote:
>>> On Mon, 4/11/16, Boruch Baum wrote:
>>> Upon adding
Boruch Baum wrote:
> I don't yet have a working solution for 'switch-users',
> 'shutdown', or 'restart'.
Try these:
create /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/consolekit.pkla and with the
content:
--
[restart]
Identity=unix-user:*
Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restar
On 04/11/2016 09:40 PM, Go Linux wrote:
> On Mon, 4/11/16, Boruch Baum wrote:
>> Upon adding a GUI on top of a pre-existing cli-only install of
>> devuan-alpha-4, the functionality of suspend, hibernate, switch-users,
>> shutdown and restart were unavailable to the desktop user.
>>
>> The easy so
On Mon, 4/11/16, Boruch Baum wrote:
Subject: [DNG] suspend
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Monday, April 11, 2016, 6:53 PM
> Upon adding a GUI on top of a pre-existing cli-only install of
devuan-alpha-4, the functionality of suspend, hibernate, switch-users,
shutdown and restart w
Upon adding a GUI on top of a pre-existing cli-only install of
devuan-alpha-4, the functionality of suspend, hibernate, switch-users,
shutdown and restart were unavailable to the desktop user.
The easy solution for suspend and hibernate is to create a pkla file in
folder /etc/polkit-1/localauthori
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