On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:26:06 +
Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> I'm here because i want choice and i like stuff to be modular and
> open, not closed and monolithic (unless we're talking about Clarke's
> 2001).
Nuno,
You've just almost completely described my intentions in one sentence.
Very nice! I
Didn't know this thread was poll-ish.
I use/administer/whatever 100 machines at the moment: 11 run linux,
the other 1 (my laptop) runs windows while still in warranty (and
because in a realistic world i have to deal with Microsoft Office,
although i've heard its 2003 version runs well in WINE). Of
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 11:19:27AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:32:28 -0500
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 06:41:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 10:36:19 -0600
> > > Vince Mulhollon wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > There shouldn't be
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:32:28 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 06:41:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 10:36:19 -0600
> > Vince Mulhollon wrote:
> >
> >
> > > There shouldn't be any "tweaking" for a desktop. This whole bad
> > > idea comes from marketing
Le 17/02/2015 01:23, Isaac Dunham a écrit :
But shell scripts can be written well, and writing a shell script to
solve a problem beats writing a custom config to handle how one tool
does it, and then not being able to apply that to another platform...
or an older version of the same distro. A
> On February 16, 2015 at 10:55 AM Gravis wrote:
> You dont have to be a server admin to be concerned about security. I'm a
> desktop user/developer and while customization is nice, security is
> paramount.
>
> Revelations about the NSA has really made me reconsider system security for
> my box
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 06:41:06PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 10:36:19 -0600
> Vince Mulhollon wrote:
>
>
> > There shouldn't be any "tweaking" for a desktop. This whole bad idea
> > comes from marketing at Microsoft
>
> Whoaaa, wait a minute. Another word for "tweaking" is
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 02:44:04PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> 1) It is clear, by reading this list that part of us are mostly
> concerned with servers.
>
> 2) I also read that there are people who want to truely own their
> desktop. Some call them sentimentalists, but they are the peop
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 10:36:19 -0600
Vince Mulhollon wrote:
> There shouldn't be any "tweaking" for a desktop. This whole bad idea
> comes from marketing at Microsoft
Whoaaa, wait a minute. Another word for "tweaking" is "choice", kind of
like the reason we revolted and overthrew Debian.
On a m
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:23:09AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
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> Hi Didier,
>
> I'll explain my motivations, and perhaps others are in my boat...
>
Since everybody seems to be on an "outing" mood, here are the reasons
why I am here :)
I fell in love with unix by reading an encyclopedia of
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 06:22:00PM +, Alberto Zuin - Liste wrote:
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> IMHO, an user who wants a very complete "easy/ready to use" desktop
> probably will go to Mac OS or to a distro specialized to be a desktop
> (Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, etc.).
I
Le 16/02/2015 18:57, Rob Owens a écrit :
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From: "Didier Kryn"
Considering Devuan is a major lifeboat of free Linux-based OS, I'm
anxious about its destiny and therefore trying to figure out who is
onboard, I mean the audience.
For me, the line between desktop
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IMHO, an user who wants a very complete "easy/ready to use" desktop
probably will go to Mac OS or to a distro specialized to be a desktop
(Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, etc.).
The most part of Devaun installation will be server, because avoiding
systemd on it,
- Original Message -
> From: "Didier Kryn"
> Considering Devuan is a major lifeboat of free Linux-based OS, I'm
> anxious about its destiny and therefore trying to figure out who is
> onboard, I mean the audience.
For me, the line between desktop and server is very blurred. I use D
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On 02/16/2015 11:23 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:44:04 +0100 Didier Kryn
> wrote:
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>> Hi folks.
>>
>> Considering Devuan is a major lifeboat of free Linux-based OS,
>> I'm anxious about its destiny and therefore trying to figur
Hi Steve and Vince.
I agree with you that the desktop must stay as slim as possible,
which means not installing the stuff you don't ask for. However I
seem to still need more than you. Let's start a list of guis:
Xterm, Synaptic, spread-shit, present
> Should we understand it's based on POSIX permissions and not on ad hoc
daemon?
yes. however, there is currently a problem with flooding the system with
hundreds of new users and groups. i'm investigating the possibility of
using extended file attributes.
--Gravis
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:2
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Didier Kryn wrote:
> It is perfectly arguable that people involved in servers' deployment
> do not want to dedicate time to tweaking a Linux-based desktop.
>
The root cause of a lot of the trouble has come from people rationalizing
bad decisions, or distracti
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:44:04 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Hi folks.
>
> Considering Devuan is a major lifeboat of free Linux-based OS,
> I'm anxious about its destiny and therefore trying to figure out who
> is onboard, I mean the audience.
>
> 1) It is clear, by reading this list
Gravis,
Should we understand it's based on POSIX permissions and not on
ad hoc daemon? I'll keep breezing, but a little faster :-)
Didier
Le 16/02/2015 16:55, Gravis a écrit :
You dont have to be a server admin to be concerned
You dont have to be a server admin to be concerned about security. I'm a
desktop user/developer and while customization is nice, security is
paramount.
Revelations about the NSA has really made me reconsider system security for
my box and linux in general. Obviously, systemd has a fundamental de
Hi folks.
Considering Devuan is a major lifeboat of free Linux-based OS, I'm
anxious about its destiny and therefore trying to figure out who is
onboard, I mean the audience.
1) It is clear, by reading this list that part of us are mostly
concerned with servers.
It is perfe
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