On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:26:49 AM dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:
> Re: [Dng] Important changes in Linux 3.20 (4.0?)
> From: Isaac Dunham
> To: Hendrik Boom
> CC: dng@lists.dyne.org
>
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:40:06AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >
oh good. glad to read that our linux kernel friends are more sane than our
distro friends.
--Gravis
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:47 AM, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:40:06AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:26:01AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
> > > > Kernel l
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 05:47:04AM +, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> > > > Kernel live patching makes KDBUS and systemD support mandatory!
>
> Erm...I'm reading that kdbus was *not* merged.
>
> FWIW, kdbus was specifically mentioned when Linus blacklisted Kay Sievers.
> V3 seems to have gotten a lot o
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:40:06AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:26:01AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
> > > Kernel live patching makes KDBUS and systemD support mandatory!
> >
> > i'm weary of KDBUS but live patching is something i consider too dangerous.
> > --Gravis
>
> But wh
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 11:15:14PM -0500, Peter Olson wrote:
> > On February 16, 2015 at 8:25 PM Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 07:34:57PM -0500, Peter Olson wrote:
>
> > > “Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.”
> > > ― Edmund Burke
> > >
> > > Peter Olson
>
> On February 16, 2015 at 8:25 PM Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 07:34:57PM -0500, Peter Olson wrote:
> > “Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.”
> > ― Edmund Burke
> >
> > Peter Olson
> I think the original quote was by Santayana:
>
> George Santayana. Those w
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 07:34:57PM -0500, Peter Olson wrote:
> > On February 15, 2015 at 2:39 PM Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:50:53PM -0500, Jude Nelson wrote:
> > > IVI == "In-Vehicle Infotainment." The stuff that runs your new car's UI.
> [stuff omitted]
> > No one pus
> On February 15, 2015 at 2:39 PM Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:50:53PM -0500, Jude Nelson wrote:
> > IVI == "In-Vehicle Infotainment." The stuff that runs your new car's UI.
[stuff omitted]
> No one pushing this seems to be really concerned with the security, or
> the safety
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 03:31:02AM +0200, Martijn Dekkers wrote:
> >
> > The thing that scares me because I suspect it's just not as well
> > debugged as the software that used to run a car only a few years ago?
> >
> >
> You overestimate the amount of debugging that goes into in-car software. I
>
> What exactly does IPC have to do with patching?
the patching is done via IPC.
--Gravis
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 8:41 PM, Vlad <2389...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What exactly does IPC have to do with patching?
>
> On Feb 15, 2015 5:22 PM, "Jaromil" wrote:
>>
>>
>> hi
>>
>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2015, jo...@
What exactly does IPC have to do with patching?
On Feb 15, 2015 5:22 PM, "Jaromil" wrote:
>
> hi
>
> On Sun, 15 Feb 2015, jo...@trash-mail.com wrote:
>
> >As you may have read, Linus Torvalds considers to call the next
> >Linux release 4.0 instead of 3.20. Many people have been wondering
>
> The thing that scares me because I suspect it's just not as well
> debugged as the software that used to run a car only a few years ago?
>
>
You overestimate the amount of debugging that goes into in-car software. I
once had an Alfa Romeo with a buggy implementation for it's tiptronic
gearbox.
> No one pushing this seems to be really concerned with the security, or
> the safety of the user interfaces.
there are a few ways this could change.
- a single senator/congressman has their ride hacked/bricked
- several people die in fiery car wrecks from bad code or a virus
- a self-propagating
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:50:53PM -0500, Jude Nelson wrote:
> IVI == "In-Vehicle Infotainment." The stuff that runs your new car's UI.
The thing that scares me because I suspect it's just not as well
debugged as the software that used to run a car only a few years ago?
Well, what scares me it
IVI == "In-Vehicle Infotainment." The stuff that runs your new car's UI.
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Gravis wrote:
> Jude,
>
> i'm glad at least one of us is following the kdbus conversation.
> advanced authentication is exactly what i wanted added to unix domain
> sockets, so kdbus sound
Jude,
i'm glad at least one of us is following the kdbus conversation.
advanced authentication is exactly what i wanted added to unix domain
sockets, so kdbus sounds nice as long as it works as advertised. as a
POSIX enthusiast, i wish they had merely extended unix domain sockets
so that it could
On 02/15/2015 05:40 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:26:01AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
>>> Kernel live patching makes KDBUS and systemD support mandatory!
That would make it a circular dependency... and circular dependencies
always kill themselves. :)
Also, it (hopefully) won't depe
I think we're significantly overblowing the impact of kdbus.
I've been following the development of kdbus, and kdbus alone is just
another way to send bytes from one process to others. In a nutshell, it
creates a namespace of special character files that have some interesting
properties. Namely,
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 10:26:01AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
> > Kernel live patching makes KDBUS and systemD support mandatory!
>
> i'm weary of KDBUS but live patching is something i consider too dangerous.
> --Gravis
But why would it have to depend on systemd?
-- hendrik
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> Kernel live patching makes KDBUS and systemD support mandatory!
i'm weary of KDBUS but live patching is something i consider too dangerous.
--Gravis
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 9:09 AM, wrote:
> As you may have read, Linus Torvalds considers to call the next Linux
> release 4.0 instead of 3.20.
hi
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015, jo...@trash-mail.com wrote:
>As you may have read, Linus Torvalds considers to call the next
>Linux release 4.0 instead of 3.20. Many people have been wondering
>why, but
yea read that back a year ago. makes sense.
>there is one quite radical feature hid
As you may have read, Linus Torvalds considers to call the next Linux release
4.0 instead of 3.20. Many people have been wondering why, but there is one
quite radical feature hidden in the new version.- OverlayFS now supports
multiple read-only layers.- Many Intel DRM graphics driver improvement
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