Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-18 Thread hellekin
Volunteers for package adoption can now head to the [devuan-maintainers][0] project. The [wiki][1] gives instructions to follow for adopting a package from the current [list of base packages][2] that jaromil posted earlier. If you need anything, try #devuan first. == hk [0]: https://git.devuan.

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-16 Thread Jack L. Frost
On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 10:30:32AM +, Jaromil wrote: > While I look forward to vdev's development, I think we should change as > little as possible here, despite the fact we will keep some systemd code > around for a little longer (but no systemd daemon running anyway). Oh, I was not suggesti

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-15 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Feb 08, 2015 at 03:08:34PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Anthony G. Basile > wrote: > > eudev is used in gentoo and some other projects, like buildroot and crux. > > So i've noticed. what about devuan? Discussion so far seems to indicate that udev is goi

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-15 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > eudev is used in gentoo and some other projects, like buildroot and crux. So i've noticed. what about devuan? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailm

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-14 Thread karl
Jaromil: > dear Jude, > On Mon, 02 Feb 2015, Jude Nelson wrote: > >Hey everyone, > >Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend on > >some part of systemd?* I'd like to get the ball rolling on compiling out > >systemd dependencies for Devuan packages, but I

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 10:30:32 + Jaromil wrote: > > hi Jack, Isaac, > > On Fri, 13 Feb 2015, Jack L. Frost wrote: > > That's because by default X tries to hotplug input devices with > > evdev. And evdev requires libudev. There is a evdev fork that > > works with libsysdev tho: > > https://gi

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-14 Thread Patrick Erdmann
+1 for this pragmatic approach. On 14.02.2015 11:30, Jaromil wrote: > > hi Jack, Isaac, > > On Fri, 13 Feb 2015, Jack L. Frost wrote: >> That's because by default X tries to hotplug input devices with evdev. >> And evdev requires libudev. There is a evdev fork that works with >> libsysdev tho:

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-14 Thread Jaromil
hi Jack, Isaac, On Fri, 13 Feb 2015, Jack L. Frost wrote: > That's because by default X tries to hotplug input devices with evdev. > And evdev requires libudev. There is a evdev fork that works with > libsysdev tho: https://github.com/idunham/xf86-input-evdev I'm curious to read Nextime's opini

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-13 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 06:21:09PM +0300, Jack L. Frost wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 06:10:40PM +0300, Jack L. Frost wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 01:59:48AM +, Isaac Dunham wrote: > > > mdev is in busybox. I've managed to bring up my system with it, but > > > when I tried starting X I

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-13 Thread Jack L. Frost
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 06:10:40PM +0300, Jack L. Frost wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 01:59:48AM +, Isaac Dunham wrote: > > mdev is in busybox. I've managed to bring up my system with it, but > > when I tried starting X I couldn't get the keyboard working. > > That's because by default X tr

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-13 Thread Jack L. Frost
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 01:59:48AM +, Isaac Dunham wrote: > mdev is in busybox. I've managed to bring up my system with it, but > when I tried starting X I couldn't get the keyboard working. That's because by default X tries to hotplug input devices with evdev. And evdev requires libudev. Ther

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-12 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 08:21:26PM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > On Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 12:05:35AM +, Nuno Magalh?es wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:47 AM, Jude Nelson wrote: > > > Considering the dependencies on libsystemd0, libpam-systemd, libudev0, and > > > libudev1, I get: >

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-12 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 12:05:35AM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:47 AM, Jude Nelson wrote: > > Considering the dependencies on libsystemd0, libpam-systemd, libudev0, and > > libudev1, I get: > > I don't see eudev or mdev in Debian's repos, are there any viable

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-12 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 09:27:10AM +, Jaromil wrote: > its sort of ready now, but as "I'm eating my own dogfood" (tm) I already > notice the staging workflow can be made better by creating different git > repositories for new versions of the same source, rather than different > branches. This b

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-12 Thread Jaromil
On Wed, 11 Feb 2015, Jude Nelson wrote: >Hi Jaromil, Thank you for clarifying.* I'm sorry if I'm asking >questions too early ;) no problem, you are helping me to choose the answers and anyone reading to figure out. >*I'll give it another try when you feel like the SDK is ready. its

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-10 Thread Jude Nelson
Hi Jaromil, Thank you for clarifying. I'm sorry if I'm asking questions too early ;) I'll give it another try when you feel like the SDK is ready. I like this workflow a lot, especially the ability to build ISOs (and presumably other bootable media). I look forward to using it to do integratio

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-10 Thread Jaromil
hi, On Mon, 09 Feb 2015, Jude Nelson wrote: >To clarify, the SDK will pull a package from Debian, and create a new >branch for each version so maintainers can observe and deal with the >changes? yes. >If so, then the maintainers (not Jenkins) will be pulling from >Debian or

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-09 Thread hellekin
On 02/09/2015 10:10 PM, Jude Nelson wrote: > > Unrelated, I opened in issue on the SDK. It seems that I'm prompted for a > password for "g...@git.devuan.org" when I run the "init" script. I don't > know what to put here. > *** You should [setup an SSH key on the gitlab][0] (let's call it ~/.ssh/

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-09 Thread Jude Nelson
Hi Jaromil, > typo? will pull them from Devuan's gitlab > yes. it also handles the import from Debian (checking signature and > hashes) and if a source of older version is already imported > automatically creates a new git branch for the new version, allowing > maintainers to examine the differe

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-08 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sun, Feb 08, 2015 at 11:08:24AM +, Jaromil wrote: > here the current thread on this > https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/issues/6 > > Over the weekend I've assessed the first minimal group of packages, > processed them via the new Devuan SDK and committed them on our > packages-ba

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-08 Thread Jaromil
On Sun, 08 Feb 2015, Jude Nelson wrote: >I'm interested in maintaining dbus, that's good news! >but I don't quite understand the >proposed workflow for base packages.* I'm doing my best to detail it here https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-sdk/blob/master/README.md the local Buil

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-08 Thread Jude Nelson
Hey Jaromil, I'm interested in maintaining dbus, but I don't quite understand the proposed workflow for base packages. It sounds Jenkins will pull the sources nightly from Debian (not upstream) and try to build Debian packages from them, but with the Devuan versioning scheme. If so, is there a s

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-08 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 02/05/15 19:05, Nuno Magalhães wrote: Hi, On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:47 AM, Jude Nelson wrote: Considering the dependencies on libsystemd0, libpam-systemd, libudev0, and libudev1, I get: I don't see eudev or mdev in Debian's repos, are there any viable alternatives? Cheers, Nuno __

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-08 Thread Jaromil
dear Jude, On Mon, 02 Feb 2015, Jude Nelson wrote: >Hey everyone, >Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend on >some part of systemd?* I'd like to get the ball rolling on compiling out >systemd dependencies for Devuan packages, but I don't want to dupl

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-08 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Hi, On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:47 AM, Jude Nelson wrote: > Considering the dependencies on libsystemd0, libpam-systemd, libudev0, and > libudev1, I get: I don't see eudev or mdev in Debian's repos, are there any viable alternatives? Cheers, Nuno ___ Dng

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-03 Thread Jude Nelson
Hi Steve, Thanks for the links; this is exactly the kind of information I was looking for. -Jude On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 20:40:30 -0500 > Jude Nelson wrote: > > > Hey everyone, > > > > Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie tha

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 2 Feb 2015 20:40:30 -0500 Jude Nelson wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend > on some part of systemd? I'd like to get the ball rolling on > compiling out systemd dependencies for Devuan packages, but I don't > want to duplicate

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-02 Thread Jude Nelson
Thanks for the link, Joel! >From what I gathered from that picture, it looks the stuff that "apt-cache rdepends" can tell me. Considering the dependencies on libsystemd0, libpam-systemd, libudev0, and libudev1, I get: $ apt-cache rdepends libsystemd0 libpam-systemd libudev0 libudev1 | grep -v "R

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-02 Thread Joel Roth
Jude Nelson wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend on > some part of systemd? I'd like to get the ball rolling on compiling out > systemd dependencies for Devuan packages, but I don't want to duplicate > anyone's efforts. > > Maybe a good

Re: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-02 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 2/2/15, Jude Nelson wrote: Subject: [Dng] Towards systemd-free packages To: "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Monday, February 2, 2015, 7:40 PM Hey everyone, Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend on some part of systemd? I'd like to get t

[Dng] Towards systemd-free packages

2015-02-02 Thread Jude Nelson
Hey everyone, Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend on some part of systemd? I'd like to get the ball rolling on compiling out systemd dependencies for Devuan packages, but I don't want to duplicate anyone's efforts. Maybe a good first step would be to get a list