Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-03-13 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 170303-20:40-0500, Christopher Clements wrote: > On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 12:03:02AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > >I haven't yet gotten to the point of using privacy I don't need > >personally, as is obvious by this unsigned email. > > I always sign my messages. Me too. > On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-03-03 Thread Christopher Clements
On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 12:03:02AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: I haven't yet gotten to the point of using privacy I don't need personally, as is obvious by this unsigned email. I always sign my messages. From what I understand, if my message is signed (and the signature is valid), then it is proo

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-03-03 Thread jamey
> And then there's what Jamie said: By all being private, we make the > truly private stand out less. I haven't yet gotten to the point of > using privacy I don't need personally, as is obvious by this unsigned > email. > SteveT A friend of mine has a bit of a conspiracy theory going - asking why

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-03-02 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 22:13:25 -0500 Christopher Clements wrote: > As a curious "I have nothing to hide" type of guy, I'm wondering if > there are any other legitimate reasons to use this stuff. My answer is that someday you will have something to hide. I don't know if it will be a disease, a cr

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-03-02 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 01/03/2017 at 06:42 Kurtis Hanna wrote: [...] >> Also, (no disrespect meant, just an innocent question), >> who are these types of distributions meant for, apart from >> the paranoid, whistleblowers, drug lords, and high-profile criminals? >> (Please don't think I'm lumping them all together.)

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-03-02 Thread Jaromil
On Wed, 01 Mar 2017, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > > The problem with having a nice brightly colored "TOR" icon on your iPhone > > is that the Jackboots can easily see it and know you're using it. But if > > *EVERYONE* has it on their phone, it's no longer nearly as useful for > > identifying people of

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-03-01 Thread Christopher Clements
On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 05:42:00AM +, Kurtis Hanna wrote: [snip] Thanks, that was very insightful. -- GPG Key: 0769 AFCF 681E F61E 2137 F4CB 5044 1726 610D 5AE0 signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.o

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-03-01 Thread Ron
On Wed, 1 Mar 2017 10:01:53 -0600 (CST) ja...@beau.org wrote: > Another reason for those who have relatively little to hide - to help > provide "herd immunity" for those who actually have legitimate reasons to > hide hard. > > The problem with having a nice brightly colored "TOR" icon on your iPh

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-03-01 Thread Jaromil
On Wed, 01 Mar 2017, ja...@beau.org wrote: > The problem with having a nice brightly colored "TOR" icon on your iPhone > is that the Jackboots can easily see it and know you're using it. But if > *EVERYONE* has it on their phone, it's no longer nearly as useful for > identifying people of interes

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-03-01 Thread jamey
> Quoting Christopher Clements (bcn...@gmail.com): >> I honestly can't think of any legitimate, ethically sound use of "extreme >> privacy" software apart from whistleblowing and sticking it to extremely >> aggressive advertisers like AT&T's clients. > Do you have drapes (or equivalent) in your b

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-03-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 23:35:13 -0800, Rick wrote in message <20170301073513.gb30...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > > > ..now, can we build on heads to get a safe alternative to > > https://qubes-os.org/ ? > > Pretty please? > > Qubes is a near-essential tool for Ope

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-02-28 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > ..now, can we build on heads to get a safe alternative to > https://qubes-os.org/ ? Pretty please? Qubes is a near-essential tool for Operations high-security work, and about the only serious design flaw is the one Arnt points to. _

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-02-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 28 Feb 2017 22:21:49 +0100, Adam wrote in message <20170228212149.spuhnetb623om...@angband.pl>: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 04:06:16PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 09:12:34PM +0100, parazyd wrote: > > > heads 0.0 is out! > > > It finally happened and it's not vapor

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-02-28 Thread Kurtis Hanna
Christopher Clements: > Is there really any way to be 100% sure that a project and/or team > member is not compromised? No. This is why 3rd party audits of the source code is important. If the source code is not fully available to everyone, then it can not be fully audited. Tails has non-free soft

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-02-28 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Christopher Clements (bcn...@gmail.com): > Is there really any way to be 100% sure that a project and/or team > member is not compromised? Surprisingly, sometimes interesting discussions about security are possible after the newcomer establishes that the answer to this basic question is a

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-02-28 Thread Christopher Clements
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:21:49PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 04:06:16PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 09:12:34PM +0100, parazyd wrote: > heads 0.0 is out! > It finally happened and it's not vaporware! It's out, it's not vaporware, it boots into a V

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-02-28 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 04:06:16PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 09:12:34PM +0100, parazyd wrote: > > heads 0.0 is out! > > It finally happened and it's not vaporware! > > It's out, it's not vaporware, it boots into a VM or bare hardware > from USB, but... > > What Is It?

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-02-28 Thread parazyd
On Tue, 28 Feb 2017, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 09:12:34PM +0100, parazyd wrote: > > heads 0.0 is out! > > It finally happened and it's not vaporware! > > It's out, it's not vaporware, it boots into a VM or bare hardware > from USB, but... > > What Is It? You continue looking

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

2017-02-28 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 09:12:34PM +0100, parazyd wrote: > heads 0.0 is out! > It finally happened and it's not vaporware! It's out, it's not vaporware, it boots into a VM or bare hardware from USB, but... What Is It? -- hendrik > > heads 0.0 is a preview live CD of what heads is going to be a