Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs [solved]

2018-10-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
when I started this thread that it would turn into such > an informative monster. The collective wealth of knowledge on this > list is stunning. While most of it is way over my head, I have > picked up a few things and now have plenty of references if I get > whacked again by a netwo

Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?

2018-10-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
understand_ their need for _RL_ privacy, and will easily accept they need online privacy too, a fact you will find is handy when you are ready to scare them off their pirated Wintendos. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?

2018-10-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
> Remains is also available from ascii-backports. ..you mean remmina? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remmina https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=remmina https://manpages.debian.org/stretch-backports/remmina/remmina.1.en.html -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen

Re: [DNG] How to unarchive an .xz

2018-10-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
> > > * 7z is similar but incompatible to xz; also a container rather > > > than a pure compressor. > > > > You forgot 'pack' :-) > > You forgot pigz lbzip2 pixz pxz, those are multicore, multithtread > programs. ...and rzip an

Re: [DNG] How to unarchive an .xz

2018-10-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:16:33 -0700, Rick wrote in message <20181020221633.ga17...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > > > > > You forgot 'pack' :-) > > > > > > You forgot pigz lbzip2 pixz pxz, those are multicore,

Re: [DNG] Who remembers rootkit..

2018-10-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
for systemd and an incoherent claim of the > > Linux kernel doing HTTP requests to somewhere. > > What makes your post helpful? ..to me, it helps ID you as a wannabe black flag systemd shill fishing with Fox "News" type "news" bait. Bye, felicia. -- ..med venn

Re: [DNG] There is no madness to begin with (was: Re: Stop the madness!)

2018-10-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
t some work done that will benefit > both Devuan and Debian. > > What happens if we let go of the drama and get on with life again? ..we will find out, one way or another. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunt

Re: [DNG] How to unarchive an .xz

2018-10-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
gt; enhanced, adapted to support newer stuff: > https://martin-steigerwald.de/computer/programme/packbench/index.html ..these tests packed/zipped coreutils-8.5.tar from here?: https://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=6301 > And yeah, I know Gitorius is gone and I intend to upload ev

Re: [DNG] Stop the madness!

2018-10-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
output of: 'for i in $(ls /etc/{i,r}*.d/README ) ;do less $i ;done ' if you wanna do it die hard way on init=/bin/sh boot ups. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets o

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ff everything else" using cpu, gpu or ram etc, automagically. >     So, well the inittab for runit might differ a lot from the > inittab of rcS. Not a big deal, that's a small file. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunter

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 12:40:20 +0200, KatolaZ wrote in message <20181022104020.acw7kg5hbcnfd...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:18:39PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:07:36 +0200, Didier wrote in message > > <826ba68a-6289-d047-7e

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:14:48 +0200, KatolaZ wrote in message <20181022131448.c77g4mldzlcjv...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 02:54:40PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > sysvinit currently supports runlevels 0-6, with 0 and 6 have &

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:09:55 +0100, Simon wrote in message <5f3ba84f-752c-4bee-b0c6-8e31b10f3...@thehobsons.co.uk>: > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..well, that's still 256 possible runlevel names. ;o) > > TBH, I don't think there's all that much scope for

Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?

2018-10-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
b membership to understand why they need to comply to the license terms under your laws. > (partially) until the club members clearly > show they want to learn something else than that. And the boxes' > features are insufficient for a triple-boot endeavours. Important is > a

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
-up with 2 buttons, "Dismiss AGAIN..." and "Ok, install /bin/dash Now, so this Damned Pop-Up NEVER Pops Up Again!!!" -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always

Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?

2018-10-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 14:51:48 +0200, Miroslav wrote in message : > On 10/23/18 1:45 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > >> > >> Hendrik, both boxes came to the club installed with Window$, and I > >> have to keep them that way > > > > ..easy now, if these

Re: [DNG] Devuan on RaspberryPi W Zero segfaults

2018-10-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
rmhf binaries with our armel binaries, and probably throw in some nefarious magic, to get in working your way. ..devuan_ascii_2.0.0_armel_raspi1.img.* works fine on my RPi1, FWIW. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry

Re: [DNG] [SOLVED] Devuan on RaspberryPi W Zero segfaults

2018-10-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
tually works and > gives serial over USB. > > Now only 2 questions remain: > - Why does "modules-load=dwc2,g_serial" not load g_serial? > - "cmdline.txt" on raspbian says "dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0", on devuan > "dwc_otg.fiq_fix_enable=2". What

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
s from GNU/Linux qualities, and from the impacts from the distro systemd coups d'etats? ..could this be Big Blue buying Red Hat to kill systemd? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in

Re: [DNG] Excessive Bounces

2018-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
I don't use a gmail account. > > Rowland ..me too, me too, about once a month. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and j

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 06:00:58 -0700, spiralofhope wrote in message <20181029060058.7d7b7992@1A.1A>: > On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 11:47:18 +0100 > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..could this be Big Blue buying Red Hat to kill systemd? > > As I understand, IBM's largest ass

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
h+Multitouch+Trackpad&ia=web ..https://duckduckgo.com/?q=PureOS+%22Elantech+Multitouch+Trackpad%22&ia=images finds: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1166442 > I'm using ascii with LXQt. > > -- hendrik -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arn

Re: [DNG] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Thank you for > > understanding. > > > > https://twitter.com/pid_eins/status/1056924336349691905 > > > > - > > What that tweet means is he can anticipate encouragement to leave  RH > shortly ..maybe: ;o) https://devclass.com/2018/10/29/ibm-targets-red-hat-de

Re: [DNG] Well, this is interesting

2018-10-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
...and may be "coming for Red Hat developers … sometime in 2019?: https://devclass.com/2018/10/29/ibm-targets-red-hat-developers-sometime-in-2019/ -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in s

Re: [DNG] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:00:23 -0700, Bruce wrote in message : > On 10/30/18 3:55 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 15:06:33 -0700, Bruce wrote in message > > <34aa7646-0df8-ceec-b3ff-98c5b34f1...@baywinds.org>: > > > >> On 10/29/18 3:02 PM

Re: [DNG] A shift in systemd development

2018-10-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:52:39 -0700, Bruce wrote in message : > On 10/30/18 4:34 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:00:23 -0700, Bruce wrote in message > > : > > > >> On 10/30/18 3:55 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >>> On Mon, 29 Oct 2

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 09:44:48 +0100, Martin wrote in message <8914632.p2IEeqaq0r@merkaba>: > Hendrik Boom - 31.10.18, 01:49: > > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400,

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-10-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:27:45 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message <20181031122744.clkla3eewf2bi...@topoi.pooq.com>: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 11:53:03PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:01:03 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message > > <20181030180103.7xwhnvy

Re: [DNG] util-linux needs an upgrade on ceres

2018-10-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
w weeks. > > > > HND > > > > KatolaZ > > > > So then this would be a good time for me to upgrade to ceres for my > runit script project, right? ..how many of you guys here on dng are on ceres? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karls

Re: [DNG] What's the latest stable version?

2018-10-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
..in the good old days before pulseaudio etc pötterware, I found Debian Sid/"unstable" stable enough for my needs. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of

Re: [DNG] Please help with testing the new version of sysvinit

2018-11-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
l -b" instead. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
27;s in all their other stuff, AFAICT: https://source.puri.sm/pureos/core/systemd -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and j

Re: [DNG] ascii upgrade /w KDE

2018-11-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
istorical systemd banana republic politics, they _may_ prefer a plan B sort of wisdom over expensive panic attacks, if or "if" somebody shoots down "systemd support of KDE"... -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
is sweet: https://system76.com/servers/starling ..they know of us, Slackware etc systemd-free alternatives? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three:

Re: [DNG] ascii upgrade /w KDE

2018-11-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 12:16:01 +0100, Martin wrote in message <2230094.aIEOJzzQQQ@merkaba>: > Arnt Karlsen - 03.11.18, 00:10: > > ..I'm beginning to think the good people at kde.org may have > > prepared themselves for this, by supporting, but not depending on > &g

Re: [DNG] systemd in sane-backends

2018-11-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
in debian/rules. ..do it, and holler when you need us testing it. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___

Re: [DNG] ascii upgrade /w KDE

2018-11-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 17:49:02 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20181103164902.xvvez32ywxldg...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Sat, Nov 03, 2018 at 05:14:12PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 12:16:01 +0100, Martin wrote in message > > <2230094.aIEOJzzQQQ@mer

[DNG] ..how CEOs & Security Flaws In Your Computer Chip Leaves You Vulnerable...

2018-11-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-b

[DNG] ..we need to keep an eye out for such systemd tricks causing DOS, was: [FYI] Docker upgrade fails to restart daemon

2018-11-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
amd64 Monitor for system resources and process activity -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case.

Re: [DNG] ..we need to keep an eye out for such systemd tricks causing DOS, was: [FYI] Docker upgrade fails to restart daemon

2018-11-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 17:48:05 +0100, info wrote in message : > > Sounds like a bug, file a bugreport. If intentionally it will get a > 'Will not fix' and you know. > > Grtz > > Nick > > ..done. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt K

Re: [DNG] ..we need to keep an eye out for such systemd tricks causing DOS, was: [FYI] Docker upgrade fails to restart daemon

2018-11-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
nd you know. > > > > Grtz > > > > Nick > > > > > > ..done. ...to submit@bugs.de_B_I_an.org , of all places: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=913365 because https://bugs.devuan.org//cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=256 -- ..med vennlig hilsen =

[DNG] ..I too vote against "the merge"!, was: /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 05:11:01 -0500, Steve wrote in message <20181116051101.4d06f...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > I vote against "the merge". ..I too vote against "the merge"! -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
re participating to this > thread. This is what I will do. > > My2Cents > > KatolaZ > -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
> would indeed have to mount /usr by means of an initrd, which is > neither brain science nor rocket surgery.) ..some of us has had to do such stunts to try escape expensive ramifications. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
in/bash > > If this is the main disadvantage of the split, then a couple symlinks > or hardlinks solves it. ..will such links solve our Debian /usr merge problem? As in, "let them do their idiot merge, we'll just toss in a coupla symlinks." -- ..med vennlig

Re: [DNG] initramfs?

2018-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 23:45:39 +0100, Harald wrote in message : > Hendrik Boom [11/16/18 7:08 PM]: > > > (2) What is initramfs good for? > > Early loading of CPU microcode update. ..this is the only good reason for it? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Ar

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
cal_volume_management ...and this gem: https://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm Nobody ever saw this Debian Etch image as a viable start point for devuan? Hindsight is annoying... > That's not the source of my objection.] -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen .

Re: [DNG] initramfs?

2018-11-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 11:23:04 +0100, Harald wrote in message : > Arnt Karlsen [11/17/18 12:58 AM]: > > > On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 23:45:39 +0100, Harald wrote in message > > : > > > >> Hendrik Boom [11/16/18 7:08 PM]: > >> > >> > (2) What

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
66 ..to clarify, "Please move libkmod to /usr/lib" is the title of https://bugs.debian.org/894566 and is what the systemd people wanna do to Debian, and what we should not wanna do to Devuan. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear h

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a librem5

2018-11-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
trees are easily symlinked back into the build/ tree. ..another tip is run your own lan repo mirror and point REPO = there, that way you can feed _several_ build boxes cheaply. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
in, sbin, lib, ... in case of merger will > they all go to the root filesystem? More potential trouble? Yes/No? > Tnx. ..you want these on its own disk, or at least on their own disk partitions, like your /home tree. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...wit

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 18:53:59 -0500, etech3 wrote in message <5bf0aa17.9030...@e-tech-systems.com>: > On 11/17/2018 06:26 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 12:32:59 +0100, Martin wrote in message > > <44080848.gBCAc932W8@merkaba>: > > > >

Re: [DNG] ..we need to keep an eye out for such systemd tricks causing DOS, was: [FYI] Docker upgrade fails to restart daemon

2018-11-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
> Nick > > > > > > > > > > ..done. > > ...to submit@bugs.de_B_I_an.org , of all places: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=913365 > because > https://bugs.devuan.org//cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=256 > -- ..med vennlig hilse

Re: [DNG] English grammar.

2018-11-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
uture, as in 'has been seen' and 'to be seen'. > > But what do I know, I have only been speaking English for the last 62 > years, ever since I moved on from 'goo-goo-gaga' baby talk ;-) > > Rowland ..me, I totally boycotted grammar, took me about 30 ye

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
be like our target systems. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing l

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a librem5

2018-11-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 00:34:58 +, Daniel wrote in message <5a3caca3-ebb2-9ab9-014d-0fe49f6f1...@danielabrecht.ch>: > On 18/11/2018 00.45, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..you want to do a separate "make repo" and a "make clean-repo-too", > > and possibly move

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 09:20:58 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20181119082058.dzvrnwrwy3ji5...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 02:11:34AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 20:52:26 +, Simon wrote in message > > <3a91e5c4-

Re: [DNG] no-usr-merged: let's get concrete

2018-11-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
n https://bugs.devuan.org. We are currently > upgrading many packages in unstable, including reportbug, so either > use the reportbug version from ascii or just use reportbug to prepare > the report and then send the email it creates to > submit[at]bugs.devuan.org > > Your help is

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
arate swap spaces faster stand-alone than put together in a RAID0? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ng Brand new, second edition > http://www.troubleshooters.com/mgr > _______ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- ..med vennlig hilsen =

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 23:52:19 -0800, Rick wrote in message <20181121075219.gz4...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > > > ..is/was these 2 separate swap spaces faster stand-alone than put > > together in a RAID0? > > I'm not sure.

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 01:12:22 -0800, Rick wrote in message <20181121091222.ga4...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > > > > In any event, I gather that there are tradeoffs. > > > https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15052/what-are-the-

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question??

2018-11-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 02:13:24 -0800, Rick wrote in message <20181121101324.gb4...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > > > ..yeah, and I really asked about RAID0, the top entry in both: > > https://www.prepressure.com/library/technology/r

Re: [DNG] /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question

2018-11-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
make those system maintenance lessons useful etc, my proposed /boot/initrd.img-recovery-$(uname -r) should carry at least the same tools I expect to find in runlevel S or 1, or drop me home there, in runlevel S or 1. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number

Re: [DNG] How to unmerge /usr (was Re: /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question)

2018-11-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxtables.so.12 sda3:~# ..note that I did toss out Xfce for LXQt to ease my workload fixing vdev or eudev, both are too polite to help build me a bootable initrd. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a numb

Re: [DNG] How to unmerge /usr (was Re: /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question)

2018-11-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
icy, a Devuan fork .deb can be as simple as having our postinst script flip a symlink around, or copying files into /sbin or /bin, rather than symlinking them there. > In the latter > case, removing them blindly might possibly cause breakage to some > functionality put in place

Re: [DNG] How to unmerge /usr (was Re: /usr to merge or not to merge... that is the question)

2018-11-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
2017 /sbin/rpc.statd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 170032 Nov 22 2015 /sbin/sgdisk -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 19224 Mar 20 2017 /sbin/showmount -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 52456 Mar 20 2017 /sbin/sm-notify -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 387632 Nov 24 2017 /sbin/tc -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10232 Mar 18

Re: [DNG] Devuan for Raspberry Pi fried SD CARD.

2018-12-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
; > Thanks. > > Do not use swap. > Use ramfs for /tmp and /var/tmp. > Turn off logging. ...or log to a log server. > Mount / readonly. > Use "noatime" mountoption. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt

Re: [DNG] RFC - Linux From Scratch

2018-12-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
org/news.html even mentions a systemd version of the book, "LFS-systemd"... -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _

Re: [DNG] A concrete proposal [was: Re: Drive-by critique]

2018-12-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
choose the Xfce installer. The Xfce installer is > also great for the less technical among us. > > If you want a very lightweight computer, choose the LXDE (or is it > lxqt?) installer. ..we have a lxqt installer? 8o) ..if you want something that's simple, "just works",

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
_file_from_a_webserver_via_DHCP -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing lis

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ry questions right at the front, so you can walk away > > and do something else while it installs itself. I find installers > > that keep asking me questions every 10 minutes annoying. > > > > You can use preseeding for that

Re: [DNG] What should be the tasks of the Devuan Installer

2018-12-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
bootloader, and a working > dpkg/apt) to a fully-functioning network server (an ssh server with > configurable keys!) ..you may have missed my installer ssh server purpose: a *minimal* base installation made up by a shell with a kernel, a bootloade

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
kernel." > > Maybe it comes with too many ifs and buts to be a viable approach. > > Ralph. ..I used to "kexec reboot" a lot in my pre-systemd Debian days, AFAIR, bought me nice long uptimes with new kernels. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards fr

Re: [DNG] Trouble with .onion addresses?

2018-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
) due to: Host unreachable (6)" > > Is anyone else having this trouble? Thanks! ..chk again now, I have it up. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three:

Re: [DNG] Trouble with .onion addresses?

2018-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 09:09:27 -0600, lpb+dev...@kandl.houston.tx.us wrote in message <7cc26988-7303-e0c5-99f4-88c7fa678...@kandl.houston.tx.us>: > On 12/20/18 8:40 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Dec 2018 09:35:45 -0600, lpb+dev...@kandl.houston.tx.us >

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 21:30:17 +0100, Alessandro wrote in message : > On 20/12/18 at 15:32, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 00:59:35 +1100, Ralph wrote in message > > : > > > >> There is this notion of "kexec boot"; I've never tried it,

Re: [DNG] Trouble with .onion addresses?

2018-12-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
onion/ now times out for me using chrome thru Tor, I'd appear in your logs as coming from 46.165.230.5 right now. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, wor

Re: [DNG] [kato...@freaknet.org: Re: Debugging Devuan .onion/TOR]

2018-12-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
gt; tor+http://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged/pool/DEBIAN-SECURITY/updates/main/p/php7.0/php7.0_7.0.33-0+deb9u1_all.deb > > SOCKS proxy socks5h://localhost:9050 could not connect to > > devuanfwojg73k6r.onion (0.0.0.0:0) due to: Host unreachable (6) > > etc. > > > > We hav

Re: [DNG] Bond ATI driver for old video cards.

2018-12-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
driver, which is _really_ an hint to go dumpster diving for better video cards. > meaning bond (oposed to free) driver, like > xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy package? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...

Re: [DNG] Multiple problems with upgrade

2018-12-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
is happening? ..generally, you wanna do one post per issue, unless you suspect you have a _chain_ of failures causing the next issues... -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three

Re: [DNG] [kato...@freaknet.org: Re: Debugging Devuan .onion/TOR]

2018-12-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 12:48:11 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20181223114811.p4u6c3et2vsi4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 11:32:37PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 22:23:12 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message > > <2018

Re: [DNG] Bond ATI driver for old video cards.

2018-12-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
for the "mach64" driver, which is > > _really_ an hint to go dumpster diving for better video cards. > > > > > meaning bond (oposed to free) driver, like > > > xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy package? > > > Андрей. > -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with

Re: [DNG] [kato...@freaknet.org: Re: Debugging Devuan .onion/TOR]

2018-12-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
anks, try again, it's up now. > gl > > > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Sunday, December 23, 2018 3:06 PM, KatolaZ > wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 01:39:31PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 12:48:11 +0100,

Re: [DNG] try Tor Browser Bundle? [was:] IceCat

2018-12-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
quot;create a credible newbie new user, have him browse the web exactly once, copy his history and bookmark files, kill him." -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three:

Re: [DNG] Bond ATI driver for old video cards.

2018-12-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
side by side, with the free driver on display 0:0 and fglrx on 0:1, or run the free driver in runlevel 2 like now and put fglrx on runlevel 3 and hop between them with "init 3" and "init 2" etc, or add a runlevel 3 fglrx or nvidia boot stanza for every current free driver boot stanz

Re: [DNG] Added desktop-live to the install guides

2019-01-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ything else with the passwd command before proceding. Select your preferred option when you're ready." -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst ca

Re: [DNG] Added desktop-live to the install guides

2019-01-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
any > > other ‘stuff’ that they might want post install to the USB. > > > > Creating a bootable Ubuntu USB flash drive from terminal > > https://askubuntu.com/a/376430 > > > > There is one additional command needed. In the next to last step > > you also > >

Re: [DNG] Steps to recover from borked grub-update

2021-04-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
r choice, using the live CD's kernel. Can Refracta already > do that? ..huh? Did we|Devuan remove the "rescue" boot options from our boot or install isos? If we didn't, a booted iso should offer Debian style advice on how to do things once you start hitting "F1&quo

[DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-04-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
t users and sysadmins. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. --- End Message --- ___

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-04-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
= with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-05-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 4 May 2021 10:00:25 -0700, Rick wrote in message <20210504170025.gb18...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2021 14:37:20 +0200, Arnt wrote in message > > <20210430143720.7311bc82@d44>: > > > >

Re: [DNG] End of free open source software?

2021-05-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ench etc on it. Keep your eyes open. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng m

Re: [DNG] End of free open source software?

2021-05-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 9 May 2021 14:27:24 +0200, Dr. wrote in message <202105091427.24515.off...@klepp.biz>: > Anno domini 2021 Sun, 9 May 11:57:59 +0200 > Arnt Karlsen scripsit: > > On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:18:47 +0200, Dr. wrote in message > > <202105090918.47488.off...@

Re: [DNG] Please don't imply this kind of equality: was Re: End of free open source software?

2021-05-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 10 May 2021 14:44:49 -0400, Steve wrote in message <2021051019.6e43f...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > Lars Noodén via Dng said on Sun, 9 May 2021 13:52:05 +0300 > > >On 5/9/21 12:57 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >> On Sun, 9 May 2021 09:18:47

Re: [DNG] PartialSolve Re: Chimaera; Lost sound

2021-05-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
> speakers, or bluetooth speakers. > > This fixed it for vlc, qasmixer and alsamixer in that they correctly > took the speakers I wanted as default and I didnt have to manually > select the motherboard sound chip. > > I'm still working on why

Re: [DNG] Devuan eBook Reader

2021-05-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
and chamaera?)? > Just use okular with the extras. all in the appropriate reposiroty. ..and if you don't like okular, find alternatives with e.g. "man -k e-book" or "man -k ebook" or "apt-cache search e-book", and find the details on each with e.g. "apt-cache sho

[DNG] ..maybe webmin?, was: Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-06-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&profile=default&search=intitle%3A%22Cockpit%22&ns0=1 ..turns out ebox changed its name, and, it does not support Procmail: https://zentyal.com/features/ ..webmin supports procmail. -- ..med venn

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

2021-06-10 Thread Arnt Karlsen
" will give you more details on each search find. ..I'm really a little too old fashion to advice on those new fancy usb key etc automount things. Anyone? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of pol

[DNG] ..udisksctl dump bug?, or just not yet started, was: USB mount problem

2021-06-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
l dump immediately restarted, another '^C' did what it should have done the first time, and now 'udisksctl \ dump' appears to work just fine, responding as it should to both 'q' and to '^C'. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen .

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