Re: [DNSOP] Public Suffix List

2008-06-12 Thread Brian Dickson
Yngve Nysaeter Pettersen wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:54:32 +0200, Niall O'Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> On 12 Jun 2008, at 12:25, Gervase Markham wrote: >> >> >>> The second question is one of resources and client complexity. I am >>> meeting resistance to the idea of hav

Re: [DNSOP] Public Suffix List

2008-06-12 Thread Yngve Nysaeter Pettersen
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:56:13 +0200, Ted Lemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:25 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: >> Is there a particular reason that DNS is a better mechanism than HTTP, >> in your view? Or is that an implementation detail? > > The DNS occurred to me because it's a

Re: [DNSOP] Public Suffix List

2008-06-12 Thread Ted Lemon
On Jun 12, 2008, at 8:26 AM, Yngve Nysaeter Pettersen wrote: > > - Behind (very) closed firewalls, where all access go through a > HTTP-only > proxy. No DNS for external addresses is available. For that matter, > when > going through a proxy you have no way of knowing if the DNS > available

Re: [DNSOP] Public Suffix List

2008-06-12 Thread Ted Lemon
On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:25 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: > Is there a particular reason that DNS is a better mechanism than HTTP, > in your view? Or is that an implementation detail? The DNS occurred to me because it's already used for carrying domain names, and also because I've been doing DNS for a

Re: [DNSOP] Public Suffix List

2008-06-12 Thread Yngve Nysaeter Pettersen
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:54:32 +0200, Niall O'Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12 Jun 2008, at 12:25, Gervase Markham wrote: > >> The second question is one of resources and client complexity. I am >> meeting resistance to the idea of having the existing list regularly >> dynamically downl

Re: [DNSOP] Public Suffix List

2008-06-12 Thread Niall O'Reilly
On 12 Jun 2008, at 12:25, Gervase Markham wrote: The second question is one of resources and client complexity. I am meeting resistance to the idea of having the existing list regularly dynamically downloaded, which would be the simplest method of providing more frequent updates than the six

Re: [DNSOP] Public Suffix List

2008-06-12 Thread Gervase Markham
Ted Lemon wrote: > On Jun 11, 2008, at 6:26 AM, Gervase Markham wrote: >> It's not true that we won't work on any other solution. This is what we >> have now, and there have been no alternative proposals which (to my >> mind) look like producing anything workable in the short term. > > Putting the

Re: [DNSOP] Public Suffix List - Please move discussion to dnsop

2008-06-12 Thread Gervase Markham
Antoin Verschuren wrote: >> No. I don't need to sell you the idea. The idea doesn't stand or >> fall on the opinion of this mailing list. > > Did you really say this ? Did I read this correctly ? > > No, can't be. I don't think Mozilla wants to insult all the IETF > experts that have voluntarily

Re: [DNSOP] Public Suffix List - Please move discussion to dnsop

2008-06-12 Thread Antoin Verschuren
> Are you sure that they do not do the same? I tried to promote > Konqueror but it has apparently the same (or even worse) bug than > Firefox. And my bug report for Konqueror was closed immediately, which > seems to indicate that the Mozilla people are not the only one with > deaf ears. Yes, but

Re: [DNSOP] Public Suffix List - Please move discussion to dnsop

2008-06-12 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 09:47:36AM +0200, Antoin Verschuren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 33 lines which said: > Perhaps it's time to move back to promoting Opera again. Are you sure that they do not do the same? I tried to promote Konqueror but it has apparently the same (or even wor

Re: [DNSOP] Public Suffix List - Please move discussion to dnsop

2008-06-12 Thread Antoin Verschuren
> No. I don't need to sell you the idea. The idea doesn't stand or fall on > the opinion of this mailing list. Did you really say this ? Did I read this correctly ? No, can't be. I don't think Mozilla wants to insult all the IETF experts that have voluntarily helped them make a living in the fi