Re: [DNSOP] Kaminsky on djbdns bugs (fwd)

2008-08-15 Thread Paul Wouters
Okay, so this is a key that's arguably more important than your KSK, because it's used to protect authentication information and, depending on how you do business, financial information belonging to your customers. If it's safe to roll this key every two years, it's safe to roll your KSK no

Re: [DNSOP] Kaminsky on djbdns bugs (fwd)

2008-08-15 Thread Ted Lemon
On Aug 15, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: Whether I get a fake CNN.com page is much less important to me then whether my nfs or mail server can be access by something I'm not sure how relevant this is to the discussion, but I'll answer the question anyway. I don't use NFS because (

[DNSOP] A different question (was Re: Kaminsky on djbdns bugs (fwd))

2008-08-15 Thread David Conrad
Hi, On Aug 15, 2008, at 9:15 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: But until we have root and .com signed, and until the average end- user is protected by a validating resolver, we aren't done yet, and I don't really get any actual benefit from my efforts. Which, tragically, is why it's taking so long. T

Re: [DNSOP] A different question (was Re: Kaminsky on djbdns bugs (fwd))

2008-08-15 Thread Frederico A C Neves
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:29:13AM -0700, David Conrad wrote: > Hi, > > On Aug 15, 2008, at 9:15 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: > >But until we have root and .com signed, and until the average end- > >user is protected by a validating resolver, we aren't done yet, and > >I don't really get any actual ben

Re: [DNSOP] A different question (was Re: Kaminsky on djbdns bugs (fwd))

2008-08-15 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 11:29 AM -0700 8/15/08, David Conrad wrote: Given this, does anyone see any DNS security and/or stability concerns if a miracle were to happen and the root were to be signed tomorrow? Yes, at the time of the first root key rollover. Well, to be more specific, at the time that all of the ke

Re: [DNSOP] A different question (was Re: Kaminsky on djbdns bugs (fwd))

2008-08-15 Thread David Conrad
Paul, On Aug 15, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: At 11:29 AM -0700 8/15/08, David Conrad wrote: Given this, does anyone see any DNS security and/or stability concerns if a miracle were to happen and the root were to be signed tomorrow? Yes, at the time of the first root key rollover.

Re: [DNSOP] A different question (was Re: Kaminsky on djbdns bugs (fwd))

2008-08-15 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 1:01 PM -0700 8/15/08, David Conrad wrote: Let me try to (hopefully) more clearly articulate my question: given the fact that caching servers only care about DNSSEC if they're explicitly configured to do so, does anyone anticipate any stability/security concerns to those folks who _haven't_

Re: [DNSOP] A different question (was Re: Kaminsky on djbdns bugs (fwd))

2008-08-15 Thread David Conrad
Paul, On Aug 15, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: If what you really, really mean to ask is "given the fact that caching servers only care about DNSSEC if they're explicitly configured to do so, does anyone anticipate any stability/security concerns to those folks who _don't_ configure

Re: [DNSOP] A different question (was Re: Kaminsky on djbdns bugs (fwd))

2008-08-15 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 4:07 PM -0700 8/15/08, David Conrad wrote: Paul, On Aug 15, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: If what you really, really mean to ask is "given the fact that caching servers only care about DNSSEC if they're explicitly configured to do so, does anyone anticipate any stability/security c

Re: [DNSOP] Kaminsky on djbdns bugs (fwd)

2008-08-15 Thread Mark Andrews
> On Aug 15, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > > Whether > > I get a fake CNN.com page is much less important to me then whether > > my nfs > > or mail server can be access by something > > I'm not sure how relevant this is to the discussion, but I'll answer > the question anyway. I do